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12-19-11, 08:20 AM #27
Re: I guess he was pretty il...
No we wouldn't. China is not North Korea. So if we decided to try China would have to pick a fight with us. Besides China will not take up arms against us. They'll threaten but the guns would never leave the armory. China may have more troops but they aren't stupid. In the land of war he who can take the fight to the enemy and wage precision whop ass wins. We can and China cant.
As for the UN both China and the US hold veto power. So that would be interesting to see unfold. Personally i think the UN would have to take emergence power over both vetos and with NK's history China would most likely lose.
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12-19-11, 10:39 AM #28
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It would be an enormous diplomatic provocation. Imagine if China tried to take direct action to engineer a new government in Cuba.
We don't even like the current gov't of Cuba - but if the Chinese showed up and started actively building a regime that suited their tastes you can bet your ass that the US would take it as more than a little bit aggressive.
Now imagine it if Cuba was physically connected to the US, sharing a 1000 kilometre border. Now imagine it if we've been allies with Cuba for more than 60 years.
North Korea is clearly in China's zone of influence. Anything the US does beyond it's current level of diplomatic involvement is provocative.
I didn't follow the six-party talks closely, but I do know that China isn't always pleased with the nutjobs that run the DPRK - so maybe change is something they'd be happy with too. But I'm pretty sure this will be a case of "No one hits my little brother but me."
Also - I think you over-estimate the US's ability to enforce their political will in North Korea through military means. The terrain is insanely difficult. Even so, for the Chinese to put a million troops in the DPRK is a relatively minor logistical problem. If it came to it, they could walk there. Beijing is only 400 miles from the DPRK.
Could the US put on a good war if they had to? Probably. But what does that entail? Think about where the bulk of our national defence would be. The Russians have a border with the DPRK too. How are the Russians going to feel about a massive American force right there?
What about our allies? For example; I think the South Koreans are more than grateful for the political and military support they get, but they would absolutely shit their pants if we started taunting the Chinese.
What about us? We are just now ending an 8 year war/conflict in a far away place. Popular support for that war (or those wars) was luke-warm at its highest. There was never unified popular support. How are the voters going to feel about an even larger commitment of forces to North Korea? Going to war with China over the political future of North Korea? Seriously - how the hell do you sell that?
Cheers,
AetheLove
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