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    Quote Originally Posted by AsO|-Special_K_33 View Post
    This I have to agree with. I think he's a top 10 QB, but Ben is no longer an elite QB. IMO he lost that "eliteness" with a sub par Super Bowl performance against GB. Don't forget he also has the distinction of posting the lowest passer rating ever by a Super Bowl winning QB (the one against SEA). That's two bad performances stacked against one good performance where he led that epic drive against the Cardinals. It just seems like he's great at leading you to the Super Bowl but then stutters in the big game.
    In other words, he's the Peyton Manning of the Steelers

    Pre-SB win at least, when he couldn't win in the postseason to save his life lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsO|-Special_K_33 View Post
    This I have to agree with. I think he's a top 10 QB, but Ben is no longer an elite QB. IMO he lost that "eliteness" with a sub par Super Bowl performance against GB. Don't forget he also has the distinction of posting the lowest passer rating ever by a Super Bowl winning QB (the one against SEA). That's two bad performances stacked against one good performance where he led that epic drive against the Cardinals. It just seems like he's great at leading you to the Super Bowl but then stutters in the big game.
    I get where you are coming from. However, I always take his first SB with grain of salt...he was 23...he also only made one bad play the entire game. He played completely lights out to get to the SB, racking up big numbers and big
    plays on the way to the big stage. His stats sucked, but he still made 2 of the 4 or so plays that won that game.


    45 He looked fairly lackluster...1 int while getting blasted by an untouched defender(pump fake didn't help) and a 2nd on a hailmary at the half...watching that game(I've watched it 4 fucking times) there were alot of balls to nowhere...which usually means the QB and the receiver didn't read the same thing(this comes from 6 years playing WR in HS and college).

    I disagree with only getting the hype for one game...he gets the hype because he wins ballgames. Most people use efficiency stats to measure how good a QB is...BR7 stacks up with alot of the all time
    greats in that department. He's still one of the most clutch(27 comeback wins, including playoffs.) QB's in the league.

    I have a feeling alot of tunes are going to change with him in the next 2 years or so...he's had the worst O-line in football since Jeff Hartings retired and Faneca walked(05)...Pitt has been investing in the o-line finally and I imagine they'll pick up someone to replace the worst guard in football(LG Kemoeatu) with someone marginally competent. I have a feeling the Todd Haley hire will help out alot, as Bruce Arians scheme was pretty run heavy...and horribly predictable. I can't count the number of times in a bar everyone there called out the damn play before it was called.It was seriously a godsend whenever they were in a situation that he wasn't calling plays.

    That being said, I could see him being 5 at this point...injuries are and will be a big concern until he gets a more solid o-line in front of him...and SB wins and appearances always make people move up on lists. I don't think I would put Big Brother Manning in the list right now...the type of injury he has is really hard and potentially dangerous to come back from.

    EDIT: copy Kemo's name because it's a bitch to spell(I don't think he can spell it either tbh), and everything after it was highlighted + small font =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWRKITTY View Post


    I get where you are coming from. However, I always take his first SB with grain of salt...he was 23...he also only made one bad play the entire game. He played completely lights out to get to the SB, racking up big numbers and big
    plays on the way to the big stage. His stats sucked, but he still made 2 of the 4 or so plays that won that game.
    He had an amazing play that year, in the AFC championship game. Jerome Bettis fumbled and he was the last guy between a turnover touchdown return and the end zone. He's in the open field against the guy and manages to pull his leg out from under him with one hand, enough that another Steeler comes in and makes the tackle. That's pretty clutch!

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    He had an amazing play that year, in the AFC championship game. Jerome Bettis fumbled and he was the last guy between a turnover touchdown return and the end zone. He's in the open field against the guy and manages to pull his leg out from under him with one hand, enough that another Steeler comes in and makes the tackle. That's pretty clutch!
    lol click the first underlined word in my prior post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningfrost View Post
    In other words, he's the Peyton Manning of the Steelers

    Pre-SB win at least, when he couldn't win in the postseason to save his life lol.
    I Would still take Manning over Big Ben. That one awesome throw he made to holmes (which was a tough catch also), makes us forget about the rest of that game. Big Ben wasn't exactly stellar. He's elusive because of his size, and that's about all I'll give him over Manning.

    We may need to have a discussion on who the better Manning is nowadays....

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