Thread: assesment tests

who came up with these stupid fucking things do they actually learn anything from these moronic questions do they expect people to answer honestly ?? it makes me brain hurt anytime i have to take one

Originally Posted by moving-target

who came up with these stupid fucking things do they actually learn anything from these moronic questions do they expect people to answer honestly ?? it makes me brain hurt anytime i have to take one

Could be worse you could be dealing with rigged root metrics.

Some of you maybe old enough to have dodged the bullet in grades 1-12 and not have had to do the stupid government standardized tests but I think I speak for everyone when I say they are killing all creativity and stifling our ability to actually learn the things we actually need to know when we grow up.

Originally Posted by SourceSkills

Some of you maybe old enough to have dodged the bullet in grades 1-12 and not have had to do the stupid government standardized tests but I think I speak for everyone when I say they are killing all creativity and stifling our ability to actually learn the things we actually need to know when we grow up.

We had to take them every year. They weren't a big deal, so no....you don't speak for me. They were a decent enough break from the norm, and it was kinda neat to see how we stacked-up againsed other kids our age Nationally.

This common core math bullshit can suck the shit dingled ass hair from me. I cant even help my youngsters doing it the old fasion way.

Common core as an idea is necessary, or something similar, but is a complete train wreck in implementation.

The US public education system is a piece of shit and they need something "like" common core but federal and state governments keep cutting finding and making it impossible. Here in AZ, probably 20 of my friends are teaching in k-12 and they are forced to teach common core without actually being trained how to or given the resources to succeed. King asshole Doug Ducey after getting elected governor of AZ cut education finding (and Arizona was already criminally under-funded) on the order of hundreds of millions.

Pretty soon our kids will be going to school in the woods learning with sticks and rocks

Originally Posted by Jester(TA)

This common core math bullshit can suck the shit dingled ass hair from me. I cant even help my youngsters doing it the old fasion way.

Just stick to helping them with their spelling.


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non-asshole reply:

I've recently helped youngsters with their math, and the difference (between how I learned it and what they're doing) stood out right away. I also asked some teachers I know. Newer math ed is less about getting the correct answer, and less about rote learning. It's more about method, thinking, and analysis. Comprehension of a mathematical concept is more important than learning a mechanical procedure. For example: understanding what a square root is, and what roots are generally, is more important than learning a process for taking cube-roots by hand.

[n.b. talk to a real math ed pro for a better description than I could give]

It was helping a 9th grader that gave me my first "wtf is up with this shit?" moment and lead to my "oh, I see what these sneaky bastards are doing" revelation.

Despite my initial negative reaction, I think there's more going on than I appreciated at first. Some of the downsides are obvious, but I'm now willing to admit there are upsides too.

But yeah: helping a 14-year-old with their math homework was pain in the ass.

My mother honestly loves common core. So does my younger cousin who is also a teacher like my mother. They've also started introducing conceptual programming to my mother's school district for the younger kids to help teach logic. It's a lot of new ways of doing things, and I'm fine with that. The thing I absolutely loved about university was that professors cared more about us learning how to actual use math, physics, etc. as opposed to learning how to memorize a million equations.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Common core is stupid. There was nothing wrong with the easier old way.

2 years ago, I would have agreed with you, but here I am with a 7 year old who is forced to use common core. We've tried to teach her both methods early on, and the common core approach provides a more logical approach for my child. Sure, the easier old way is great for you and me, because that's what we know. After forcing myself to learn the early stages of common core, I firmly believe that - if taught right; common core will lead to a more logical approach to all things in life.