My company

**moving-target** · 08-19-16, 11:26 AM

They call me up . And say your vacation check is ready so I'm assuming that means I'm not getting an option of taking a vacation? They are just giving me a weeks pay without the option ? Of so cock suckers .....but I need the money what can I do just pisses me off I didn't get a. Option

**AetheLove** · 08-19-16, 12:19 PM

Might mean lots of things.

I once worked a job where "1 week paid vacation" meant you got a check for 1 week of work. When - or even if - you took the vacation had nothing to do with it.

Same with sick days. I got something like 8 sick days a year. As a practical matter what that meant was that you got 8 days of pay. If you were actually sick, and missed work, and had sick days left, you could ask for one of those days to be applied to that week's check. That way, you got the same (ish) amount of money that week.

At some point in the fiscal year you could ask for your sick pay, and any outstanding sick pay would be added to your check. If you were sick and didn't have any more "sick days", you could still call in sick. You just didn't get paid.

At first that felt weird. There was an almost complete disconnect between (a) missing work, (b) being sick, and (c) getting paid when you were sick. After a while it began to make sense. Everyone got the same compensation. Everyone had the same latitude between the demands of a clock-punching job and the realities of a bumpy life. The company never had to deal with the nonsense of someone saving up sick days for 10 years and then taking a 3 month 'vacation'.

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**moving-target** · 08-19-16, 12:31 PM

That's another thing this company offers no sick leave so I never have time to go to a doctor with the hours I work I miss a day of work that's like 124$ out of my check cause I'd also miss out on my 5 hours overtime I get each week + the price of a doctor visit security work is kinda crappy

**moving-target** · 08-20-16, 07:52 PM

aaaand i been working 45 hours a week for almost an entire year but they decide my vacation check is only for 33 hours COCK SUCKERS

**HeavyG** · 08-21-16, 01:45 PM

Most companies want you to take the time instead of simply cashing it out as EXTRA. It should be an exchange in the books from your regular time paid for vacation/sick time paid. Either way, you get the same amount of time paid on your check. If the company is hiring responsibly, it should be accounting for your time off.

In the most basic of math, it goes like this:

1) Company determines the number of people or "requirements" it takes to staff for all of the work.
2) It then adds to those requirements to account for scheduled vacation time, unplanned sick time, tardiness, team meetings, trainings, etc. This time additional time is known as "shrinkage". There are other considerations, such as hours of operation coverage, so you may need to over staff just to make sure you are covering all hours.
3) Employees take their time off without disrupting the business.

Requirements + Shrinkage = Actual Need

So if a company needs 10 people each day to do a job, it should actually hire 11 or 12 to account for the time off, etc. For this reason, the company has already paid extra by hiring more people to allow you all to take your vacation time. They don't want to pay out the time because that is an added expense that they will need to account for.

Some companies may allow it, but most of them are enforcing a "use it or lose" it policy. It is a huge financial risk for a company to offer these payouts. Think of large corporations with 20k people employed. If only 25% of them were to get a payout for a single day of vacation of $124, it would cost the company $620,000. For a week's pay of $620, it would cost the company $3.1 Million.

Not all business are setup to run in this manner, and in some cases, with such small teams and low budgets, they can't really afford to hire one extra person to account for just an hour or two worth of lost time. I was just giving this from the perspective of someone who has done the hiring plan/budgeting for several large corporations and have seen many evolutions of how vacation time is treated from a budgeting perspective.