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    Re: Why America Went to War with Iraq

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    It is a "what have you done for me lately" type of world we live in. The war in Iraq will have proved to be a good decision in the future. Even still, we are most likely better off now today, than we would have been had Hussein still been in power.
    How so? Hussein wasn't a threat to the US. As a matter of fact, he was the one keeping Iran in check. Now there is less of or possibly no counterbalance to Iran's power in that region.
    I've already addressed how I felt about letting Hussein kill innocent Iraqis. Like I said, I'm ok with going over there to overthrow Hussein so that the people of Iraq don't have to live in fear every single day.

    Don't get me wrong, I think we've been there way too long, but only because we played nice, and didn't use our power efficiently to finish the war sooner. If you ask me, the United States is too nice when it comes to confrontation with other countries. We should have gone in, killed who we needed to kill and got out, but because our government is so worried about offending the rest of the world, we played softly with these douchebags and we are still there.
    Are you saying kill Saddam and the rest of his lackeys and hope for the best? How would that work? I am sure someone corrupt will come in and replace, you can't just hope for democracy. The reason they are there is because the enemy is random, it could be any Iraqi who doesn't like the Coalition in their country.

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    Yeah, yet another time to get thrown under the bus in a topic I have no interest in.
    Welcome to real life and riding the bus.

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    Re: Why America Went to War with Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by rock_lobster
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    It is a "what have you done for me lately" type of world we live in. The war in Iraq will have proved to be a good decision in the future. Even still, we are most likely better off now today, than we would have been had Hussein still been in power.
    How so? Hussein wasn't a threat to the US. As a matter of fact, he was the one keeping Iran in check. Now there is less of or possibly no counterbalance to Iran's power in that region.
    I've already addressed how I felt about letting Hussein kill innocent Iraqis. Like I said, I'm ok with going over there to overthrow Hussein so that the people of Iraq don't have to live in fear every single day.

    It's what we've had to sacrifice that's the problem. 4000+ dead, 1 trillion+ dollars. If it was just a question of shipping some arms to some resistance fighters and providing logistical support then no problem.

    Don't get me wrong, I think we've been there way too long, but only because we played nice, and didn't use our power efficiently to finish the war sooner. If you ask me, the United States is too nice when it comes to confrontation with other countries. We should have gone in, killed who we needed to kill and got out, but because our government is so worried about offending the rest of the world, we played softly with these douchebags and we are still there.

    Man you sure are lost. We are not fighting a country, we are fighting an insurgency. To win that you need the backing of the civilian population. Which we don't have and will never have. Sure some of them like us, but not the majority.


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    I mean, I didn't really want it read it all, but if we had to kill someone, or get them out, or something along those lines, why would we bomb INNOCENT civilians?
    I've heard plenty of soldier stories, and none of them are pretty...
    Just innocent people, getting killed, because of no fucking reason.
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    For all the skeptic's who say there were no Terrorists in Iraq......I suggest you google Abu Nidal. He died in Bagdad and he was in Iraq with the blessing of Hussein. Thats point one. Point two I guess nobody remembers that Hussein was offering $25,000 to each Palestinian Jihadist family who blew himself up in Isreal. Point Three Hussein himself WAS a WMD ....just ask Any Iraqi citizen. And finally point Four I guess nobody remembers that when Al Queda left Afghanistan they went to Iraq with Hussein's blessing.
    I agree with Clintok when he says "take the fight to them". Seems to me that if we didn't we would have the same things happening in main st America as what is happening in downtown TelAviv. Course then again we do have enough Jihadists here but the FBI and CIA aren't gonna give out how many Plots they have Stopped here already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBloodMaster
    For all the skeptic's who say there were no Terrorists in Iraq......I suggest you google Abu Nidal.This guy is a Palastinian, He had nothing to do with 911 or AlQaeda. He is not much of a reason to invade a soveriegn country and expend blood and treasure. He died in Bagdad and he was in Iraq with the blessing of Hussein. Thats point one. Point two I guess nobody remembers that Hussein was offering $25,000 to each Palestinian Jihadist family who blew himself up in Isreal.That is Israel, this is the US. Point Three Hussein himself WAS a WMD ....just ask Any Iraqi citizen. And finally point Four I guess nobody remembers that when Al Queda left Afghanistan they went to Iraq with Hussein's blessing.Huh? Your own president admits that there wasn't AlQaeda presence in Iraq, until we invaded. Get your facts straight.
    I agree with Clintok when he says "take the fight to them". Seems to me that if we didn't we would have the same things happening in main st America as what is happening in downtown TelAviv.This is a stretch. Course then again we do have enough Jihadists here but the FBI and CIA aren't gonna give out how many Plots they have Stopped here already.
    Where do you come up with this bullshit?

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    I know that before US forces went to Iraq, there were executions right on the street. Ok now lets talk about the UN. Iraq invaded Kuwait. Bin Laden ask to help but the Saudis refused. They brought the big gun, the US military. The US defended Saudi's oil. When the commanders finally got the orders to go into Kuwait, we take Sudams forces all the way back to Iraq. One we wanted to go all the way to Baghdad but noooooo, the politics said we did not have the UN order. SO we waited and waited and waited. FINALLY the commanders got the order. So we did just like what the Nazi did to Poland. They drove like hell to Baghdad. Once they done that, Fallujah ( I know there was a lot but Fallujah was the famous for me) intel said that a lot of bad people were in Fallujah, so we sent our Marines in there. Houses by Houses. Room by Room. Hallway by hallway, the US military took and killed the bad people.

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    Your question is why are we still in Iraq? Well there are a lot of reasons. There police force sucks and there government. We are there for security reasons. and we are still there because the insurgents are still killing our troops. From snipers to IEDs. like this failled one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7yKgqtEZ_M

    I know that a lot of people will say I am wrong and blah blah blah. But if you say I am wrong, then well the news are wrong and the people I talked to are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoZ
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    Think about it. George Bush is humming the tune that is in his head. Don't you do the same when you hum or talk to your friends? You speak your heart, right?

    Here's the truth. We went into Iraq to spread democracy and free the Iraqi people. That's what George Bush says because that is the song in his head.
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    Condaleeza confirmed it a few months ago. Now Cheney has confirmed it, too.

    Cheney said on CNN's "State of the Union with John King": "We have succeeded in creating, in the heart of the Middle East, a democratically governed Iraq. And that's a big deal. And that is, in fact, what we set out to do."

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    Re: Why America Went to War with Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MotoZ
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    Think about it. George Bush is humming the tune that is in his head. Don't you do the same when you hum or talk to your friends? You speak your heart, right?

    Here's the truth. We went into Iraq to spread democracy and free the Iraqi people. That's what George Bush says because that is the song in his head.
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    Condaleeza confirmed it a few months ago. Now Cheney has confirmed it, too.

    Cheney said on CNN's "State of the Union with John King": "We have succeeded in creating, in the heart of the Middle East, a democratically governed Iraq. And that's a big deal. And that is, in fact, what we set out to do."
    That doesn't necessarily mean that they are claiming that that is the reason why they went to Iraq. Fact is, if you were already there, makes sense to make an attempt at creating a democratically governed Iraq doesn't it.

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    about the comment of Queda in Iraq PRIOR to our invasion (which is false), even if it was the case then why don't we go after Saudi Arabia, after all (correct me if i'm wrong) wern't majority of the terrorist Saudi? and you can betcha that the Saudis likely harbor them as well.

    Also, i do believe Hussein was of a different sect then Al Queda, so at least to me it wouldn't make much sense for him to partner with them. I mean hell the sects of islam in Iraq couldn't even get along with each other, half the time it seemed our troops got killed because they were just in the way, not due as much to USA hatred there.

    Lastly, to throw in personal ideology, i don't think fighting is going to end the war terror, nothing is really but the best way to dent imo is to take out the terrorist but almost help to imrove living conditions, schools, healthcare etc in these countries. When we support the people, it going to hurt the recruiting base for the terrorist because, for example, if the US government gave you shitloads of money would you be more likely or less likely to hate them?

    Right now i believe one of the problems is that, by killing civilans, its causing kids, teens etc that parents who die to look for revenge and groups like Al Queda or Hamas offer that revenge against the "west"

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