Thread: Governor Sarah Palin's Speech

Welcome back Tbeard.

Nice long post after a 2 month hiatus. By the way, where is Obama's foreign policy experience lest we forget that he is at the top of the Democratic ticket where as Palin is not. Also in case you haven't noticed her child is not the only one pregnant, Christian or not. Nice job attacking her family. Even Obama won't go that far.

Attack her family? By claiming it's hypocritical of her to be an advocate of opposing the very programs that work toward cutting teen pregnancies when her own daughter is pregnant? Buy claiming that abstinence-only program do nothing to prevent kdis from having sex? That's attacking her family? She's the one making it an issue! You can get an easy view of her record on sex-ed by looking at her record as Governor. That's where I get off. She's not excusing herself from anything! She's on the record as saying she'll overturn Roe v Wade, and won't support a woman's right to choose in cases of rape and incest.

She's the one who parades her family in front of America and uses it as a political tool, working into a political speech, all the while touting her religious righteousness on "family values."

And the ethics investigation isn't about whether the trooper is a bad guy, it's about whether she abused her power as governor in pressuring the Public Safety Commisioner to fire him. Abuse of power is abuse of power, regardless of reasoning behind it.

"Tear our country apart with race wars?" What in the hell are you talking about? Are we color-blind? Can anyone be color-blind? Race exists my friend! It is is front of all of us! Ignoring race and race-issues in this country doesn't make it go away. None of us are color-blind.

"We have foreign dignitaries here." So does Washington! So does Oregon! So does Idaho! What has she ever done even remotely related to foreign relations? How does being in proximity to Canada and Russia have anything to do with Foreign Relations experience?

More Democratic counterfeit crap. Already proven to be wrong from AIP's "official website".

Originally Posted by TBeard

Oh there's even more.....she and her husband are members of the AIP, which believes the US Constitution "should be re-written to conform to Biblical law." Yeah thanks Sarah, but I think our founding fathers did a pretty good job separating church and state so that we wouldn't EVER live under a religious Theocracy.
You see, Sarah, we actually heed the 1st Amendment down here in the lower 48.

By the way

http://www.akip.org/

Contrary to initial reports, Vice-President candidate Governor Sarah Palin was never a member of our party. Todd Palin was registered as a member but never participated in any party activities aside from attending a convention in 1994.

http://www.akip.org/090308.html

Press release with corrections from the AIP Chairman, Lynette Clark.

Most recently I have pulled the entire record regarding the Alaskan Independence Partys' 1994 Convention file. I went through all the video, audio and paper records for that function. Something I should have done earlier before making the statement that Governor Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. For that I humbly apologize to Governor Palin, and, to both national and local press, and media.

I, foolishly, repeated and accepted as fact what an officer of this membership shared with myself, and husband Dexter Clark, over a year ago. My statement was incorrect regarding the Governor's membership. What was correct was that Todd Palin was a member, that Sarah as a candidate for Governor appeared at the AIP Convention in 2006, and sent a welcoming DVD to the membership at the 2008 AIP statewide convention. Those truths do not take away my fault in mis-speaking regarding her membership. For that I do take full responsibility. I hold Governor Palin in high regard, I believe she is far and away the best individual Alaska could have as Governor, and as a woman, mother and wife is one of the best examples walking!

Thank you and again, I apologize to all.

Lynette Clark, Chairman
Alaskan Independence Party
September 3, 2008

It's ok Freak. Watch them squirm.

As soon as Gov Palin was finished last night, I knew the response would be frenzied. It is a testament of her capability.

"What was correct was that Todd Palin was a member, that Sarah as a candidate for Governor appeared at the AIP Convention in 2006, and sent a welcoming DVD to the membership at the 2008 AIP statewide convention. "

Good enough for me. The fact that she's even associated with the group and "participates" in any function should be enought to scare the hell out of anyone, let alone that her husband was or is a member.

She's rallied her conservative base - I'll give her that. Nothing rallies up the conservative base like oold-fashioned vitriol.

And Clintok, she's not scaring anybody. Like I said, great VP pick for a ticket that is losing their message and going back to the same old politics of conjuring up a fear-based message of divisiveness.

They're losing the issues battle, and they know it.

We'll see how the message plays, but my money is on the fact that this backfires on them.

McCain had better say something about his economic plan tonight, or this whole convention is going down in flames an an extension of 8 years of failed policy.

Originally Posted by TBeard

"What was correct was that Todd Palin was a member, that Sarah as a candidate for Governor appeared at the AIP Convention in 2006, and sent a welcoming DVD to the membership at the 2008 AIP statewide convention. "

Good enough for me. The fact that she's even associated with the group and "participates" in any function should be enought to scare the hell out of anyone, let alone that her husband was or is a member.

Just like Obama's church affiliation with Trinity United Church of Christ. Even more insight to association being Good enough for me.

You're right, "Good enough for me"

Oh wait, Obama WAS a member

I'll take the Trinity United Church of Christ any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.

The Republicans still don't get it. This isn't about Barack Obama. It's about empowering Americans behind a movement to become engaged in the political process again - to care about America and its direction. To be and embody the change that we want to see. To not just be a part of the process, but be the process.

I believe in stem cell research. I believe that the most important barrel of oil is the one we don't use, and we don't pay the middle east for. I believe that empirical scientific data from ice samples dating back to the Industrial Revolution proves that the carbon level in our atmosphere is at an extremely dangerous level due to human influence, and that continuing to deny that, from even the smallest number of people, prevents us from working together to solve what is going to be the greatest problem this century, and is beginning to threaten our ability to sustain our American way of life. I believe that American innovation, with the right incentives, can create home-grown green energy, and millions of new jobs. I believe that we wrongly incent companies to off-shore jobs. I believe in a woman's right to choose. I don't believe regulating firearms prevents responsible ownership. I believe it is time for the Iraqi government to begin to take responsibility for the security of their nation, and that it was a mistake to ever spend 4,000 American lives (and counting), and spend our way into $10 trillion of debt invading in the first place.

I believe the Bush administration surrounds itself time and time again with single-minded people, paralyzing their ability to think critically about any situation, endangering the lives of every American. Real leaders surround themselves with people who disagree, because it is through our disagreements that we learn about the world and each other, and discover new ideas and new solutions.

I think the Republican party has many, many ethical and responsible members of Congress. I think John McCain is one of them, and I respect his service to this country.

But I fundamentally disagree with his policies.

And I think Sarah Palin is a desparate ploy to re-direct failing campaign with smoke and mirrors.

What I think we can all agree on is that engaging eachother in our thoughts and beliefs, however different they may be, is what makes America great.

That, and that what makes TTP so great is that you can kill eachother online one day, and argue politics the next!

- t