Ammo tax

**Nuckle** · 03-19-09, 08:31 PM

I did not read the whole thing due to time but it still seems that we are talking about reloaded ammo. Federal, Remington, Hornady, Wolf, Winchester, Corbon, Fiocchi nor Sellier & Bellot would be effected by this change. I am sure there are many more that I am missing.

A change like this will have no effect on purchasing 1,000 rounds of wolf ammo for a .223 but will have an effect on the reload providers which make up a very small portion of the ammo market. The wolf ammo I shoot in my .223 is not even reloadable. The hornady ammo I shoot in my more accurate .223 is not reloads. It is fresh never been fired brass. Allowing more brass in the recycle market could cause the price of brass to drop some which could offset any price increases we would see by the lessening of available product.

FYI .223 is selling like hot cakes but easily found and running about the same price as a year ago. Lets stand tall on the tough issues and leave this petty stuff alone. The brass the military uses belongs to them and maybe with metals increasing they have found a way to sell this brass in a better way than to the reloading centers.

Nuck

**Blakeman** · 03-19-09, 11:23 PM

The brass shredding is a non issue now. Wish there were more pro-gun democrats like Baucus and Tester.

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STATEMENT FROM NRA CHIEF LOBBYIST CHRIS W. COX
Military Surplus Cartridge Case Issue Resolved

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Yesterday morning, the Department of Defense informed NRA-ILA that fired military small arms cartridge cases are once again eligible for sale, following a temporary suspension in such sales instituted last week. NRA-ILA began discussions with DoD shortly after the suspension took effect, and we were assured from the beginning that efforts were underway to resolve the issue favorably.

Yesterday afternoon, DoD additionally confirmed the lifting of the suspension to pro-Second Amendment United States Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who sent the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) a joint letter vigorously opposing the suspension, on the grounds that it had "an impact on small businesses who sell reloaded ammunition utilizing these fired casings, and upon individual gun owners who purchase spent military brass at considerable cost savings for their personal use."

Everyone who would have been impacted by the suspension, had it become permanent, owes thanks to Senator Baucus for his leadership on this issue, as well as to Sen. Tester and U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), who also weighed in strongly on behalf of gun owners and the suppliers from whom they obtain ammunition reloaded with surplus military brass.

In announcing that the suspension has been lifted, DoD also made clear that no cartridge cases that, in the absence of the suspension, would have been sold for reloading purposes were destroyed while the suspension was in effect. Such cases were instead protected by DoD during the suspension, and are again eligible for sale. With ammunition currently in short supply, that was welcome news, to be sure.

DLA also put to rest various theories and rumors that were circulated on the internet, concerning the reason for the suspension. As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which, in the interest of national security, halted the sale of items within a broad category of government property including, but not limited to, surplus small arms cartridge cases.

To make cartridge cases eligible for sale once again, DoD demilitarization officials verified that the cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for use within the United States, and then executed the recategorization. Whereas during the brief suspension, fired cartridge cases would have been releaseable only if the purchaser crushed or smelted them, now the cases may be sold as before, intact and reloadable.

DoD also assured NRA-ILA that companies previously authorized to purchase cartridge cases under Trade Security Controls need no further vetting at this time, and are eligible to resume purchasing cases under the policy adopted yesterday.

In sum, a problem that could have had serious repercussions for the remanufactured ammunition industry and the countless gun owners who support it, appears to have been resolved quickly.

For more information:

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/DLA.MilitaryBrass.pdf

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/DLA_mcunningham.pdf

**MotoZ** · 03-20-09, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Alundil

On the other hand though, local Houston radio show called "Gun Talk"

That's Tom Gresham's show. It's syndicated on several radio stations across the U.S. Tom is a friendly and helpful guy.

http://www.guntalk.com

**MotoZ** · 03-20-09, 04:25 PM

I now see that Alundil already mentioned that. My bad.

**MotoZ** · 03-20-09, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Blakeman

The brass shredding is a non issue now. Wish there were more pro-gun democrats like Baucus and Tester.

Kudos to those guys.

Time for me to cut another check to the NRA-ILA as well. I voted for Obama because of his people skills and clear thinking. But if he gets bored with the economy and starts playing gun games then I want to make sure that the NRA lawyers are fed and ready to thump him in the chest.

Politics. :10

**Tick** · 03-20-09, 11:50 PM

Woot, time to bust out the swager and find me some bulk surplus brass. Anyone got any leads they don't mind sharing? I'll tell ya where you can find Sierra MatchKing bullets in pretty much all calibers right now if ya do. 8)