Hoops star to skip senior year...of high school.

**jason_jinx** · 06-08-10, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Right, because everyone who has a college education is a genius, and everyone who doesn't must be "dumb".

+1

some would love to keep that stereotype alive and well!

Makes you wonder about the stories about people who work for a company 10+ years. Lied about their education or backround but still get the job done and perform well. Then they are fired in the end because all the gents who wear that 50lb college ring don't want to agknowledge the fact that the job can be done without a 100k textbook education.

**CivilWars** · 06-08-10, 08:55 AM

The funny thing is I KNOW that bunni is smarter than many of his professors that have more degrees, and at this point more prestige, than him. I also know he is smarter that many people who already have masters degrees in his field. So does that lamb skin make you any smarter, or more qualified, there Mr. Education? Funny how bunni is the example to disprove his own argument.

**Bunni** · 06-08-10, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

The funny thing is I KNOW that bunni is smarter than many of his professors that have more degrees, and at this point more prestige, than him. I also know he is smarter that many people who already have masters degrees in his field. So does that lamb skin make you any smarter, or more qualified, there Mr. Education? Funny how bunni is the example to disprove his own argument.

Originally Posted by Bunni

You missed the point of my post, i was commenting on the state of our society. For example, a single NFL Football player makes more a year than yoplait made with the breast cancer foundation lid fun raiser. That is to say, we care more about throwing a ball around than we do saving lives. Hell it would be safe to assume we spend more time making larger televisions than making anything half productive towards a better future.

Yes, we live in a society that has corrupted its educational system and misplaced its values. We no longer live in a world of survival of the fittest. I can help but think the intro to the movie Idiocracy, is a perfect example. Hell the movie seems to be on par to. Maybe even Walle's got it nailed. Even more so your post is an even better example of our misplaced values.

**jabberwock** · 06-09-10, 08:23 PM

I see what you're on now and agree, bunni.

I have the same problem with differing pay rates in the 'ballplayer vs doctor' vein as I do with 'doctor vs small farmer'. I'd rather be fed well enough to get to the doctor than have the doctor himself. The largest problem I see with the education system, which I think Jason touched on, is how learning your profession on the job is becoming a thing of the past. Rather than work your way up in a complex industry/occupation, an education is near mandatory to even have the opportunity to prove your capabilities, and aptitude. In certain fields, school is as close to essential as you can get, but the majority of education in an institution, perhaps apart from many sciences, medicine, and law seems largely unnecessary, and rather redundant because people end up learning most of what they actually do day to day, and why they do it on the job anyhow. Some truly intelligent people don't function or find stimulation in a classroom environment, and they end up losing out because of it.

I know many students that haven't learned much about life outside of the classroom, not even when to call it quits on the beer bong in an evening. True responsibility mostly happens once you leave the classroom, whether after high school or college. The realm of masters, and particularly phds is pretty different. Common sense, logic, insight, and wisdom are often missed, and learned from no text. Knowledge does not equal intelligence.

bunni, and folks like him are not typical students as far as I can see.

This all reminds me of that wonderful bit in Hitchiker's Guide when a society puts all of its 'telephone sanitizers', hairdressers, and such on a ship, and happily ditches a 'useless' 3rd of the population. Brilliant commentary there.

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**jabberwock** · 06-09-10, 08:34 PM

... and after watching the intro to Idiocracy for the first time, I'm getting to it tonight! Good stuff.

**rock_lobster** · 06-09-10, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by jason_jinx

+1

some would love to keep that stereotype alive and well!

Makes you wonder about the stories about people who work for a company 10+ years. Lied about their education or backround but still get the job done and perform well. Then they are fired in the end because all the gents who wear that 50lb college ring don't want to agknowledge the fact that the job can be done without a 100k textbook education.

It's called unethical behavior. You lie on your resume, you get fired (or at least you should) regardless of how well you do the job. I'm pretty sure companies who have fallen victim to falsified resumes don't fire those individuals because "they don't want to admit you don't need an education to do that job". That would cost the company way too much money to make a point that doesn't really benefit them that much.

**Saltspring** · 06-09-10, 08:47 PM

What companies do if you lie on your resume is typically ignore it until they feel they want to fire you then they do and you get none of the benefits of being fired.

**rock_lobster** · 06-09-10, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Saltspring

What companies do if you lie on your resume is typically ignore it until they feel they want to fire you then they do and you get none of the benefits of being fired.

Sucks for that person, but that's the price you pay/risk you take when you do something like that.

I'm not trying to be argumentative; I'm just not going to make the companies out to be the bad guys when people are falsifying information that helps them get their job. Especially since it could have very well cost someone who was truly and legitimately more qualified for that position.