Thread: British health care

Long read, but very good.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...t-1775088.html

I think thats hinted at in the article, how inefficient the system is and top heavy with management. The author doesnt trash it, just points out problems from someone with a long history of dealing with the NHS because of a daughter with a rare genetic defect. He also clearly states he wouldnt want American health care, but would like some aspects of it.

Given the swelling black hole in public finances, ageing population and rising costs of health care, Britain needs a serious debate about the future of the NHS. Sadly, the indications of the past fortnight are that we are too infantile to have such a discourse. A deranged Tory MEP became engulfed in the crossfire over Obama's reforms after some fatuous remarks in the US media, and back home – in a depressing foretaste of the election campaign – Labour uses it to smear the Conservatives, and panicked Tories rush to pay homage at the altar of Aneurin Bevan.

For all the supposed cost-effectiveness of the NHS, no other country has followed our model, despite what some Republicans might claim. Instead, we should be looking at what we can learn from abroad. No one in their right mind would want to import the American system here. But there are elements to admire: their popular community hospitals, the emphasis on effective diagnosis, even aspects of the much-derided compensation culture. And turning to Europe, there are systems that enshrine consumer choice, meld public and private systems, are cheaper than our own and have better health outcomes.

Its not nonsense, its perspective Trigger. Its not an incident, its 15 years of dealing with the NHS and what they see as good and bad with the program. If you would read it you would realize the author says that theirs is better than ours. But since it has a negative title its just propoganda and not worth reading right? Im amazed people still call you the big tent party...

Originally Posted by Consultant

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Nonsense. One man's opinion about an isolated incident could not possibly sum up an entire nation's health care.

No matter how you slice it, theirs is much better than ours.

Nonsense. One man's opinion about an isolated editorial could not possibly sum up an entire article's value.

No matter how you slice it, I am funnier than you.

And British health care sucks.

Ask my sister, she just moved back and she can tell you. Their bedside manner and patient care blow. There is no privacy in their hospitals, she delivered her baby in a military-style hospital where you were in a cattle-yard of patients separated by single curtains. She was only allowed one visitor at a time and their nurses sucked ass.

You can post STATISTICS about outcomes but that is FAR from the whole picture.

Their system has a lot to be desired - as does ours, no doubt...but to dub it "superior" based on your opinion or a handfull of stats is ignorant, sir.

hey hey.

My daughter was born in a military hospital. It was rarther good. Besides stupid nurses never checking on my wife... wait. nevermind. go ahead and bash it.