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    Re: $160k per stimulus job?

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    or are we just going to borrow and spend forever ?
    No, just for the next 3 years
    then we cut spending and watch the economy implode, hooray!
    How many years have you studied economics?
    enough to know there no agreement on what works and that i don't believe cutting spending in a recession will work.

    Funny though numerous numerous times Rock, or Call or Consultant etc. post "Spending is going to screw us" and you don't ask how many year they've studied economics. Bias much?
    I know that more government involvement = more problems, and I know that printing money out the ass and giving away money like it's candy isn't better for us in the long run.

    If Obama was cutting back on spending, you'd be all for it. Bandwagoner much?

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    Re: $160k per stimulus job?

    bunch of horse shit.

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    or are we just going to borrow and spend forever ?
    No, just for the next 3 years
    then we cut spending and watch the economy implode, hooray!
    How many years have you studied economics?
    enough to know there no agreement on what works and that i don't believe cutting spending in a recession will work.

    Funny though numerous numerous times Rock, or Call or Consultant etc. post "Spending is going to screw us" and you don't ask how many year they've studied economics. Bias much?
    I know that more government involvement = more problems, and I know that printing money out the ass and giving away money like it's candy isn't better for us in the long run.

    If Obama was cutting back on spending, you'd be all for it. Bandwagoner much?
    except i wouldn't because i don't believe thats the way to go. So do assume some more. Hell i've even said i don't agree with everything the stimulus did or the lax regulating of the bank bailouts.

    And the point of spending in a recession is not to continue it afterwords, you spend to help get things back on track and then you scale it back. You don't just throw all the chips in at once or pull them out at once.

    We wouldn't need to print a shitload of money if we had actually been saving while things were going well.

    Lastly, Tax cuts would just people saving the money instead of spending it, more then likely the same with companies. Or are you saying if you got a tax cut, you'd go out and buy a new T.V. even when you have no security you'll have a job next week?

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    too bad those people in those jobs are not making that much money....


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    Re: $160k per stimulus job?

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    too bad those people in those jobs are not making that much money....
    Hell no they aren't.

    I almost got a job at ORNL which got a large portion of the stimulus bill, and I sure as shit wasn't making near that amount.. not even 1/4... granted, didnt get the job but still..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Rid...nal_Laboratory

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    I know oak ridge, lots o history and on the cutting age with lots of computer stuff, parallelism and what not


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    Re: $160k per stimulus job?

    Quote Originally Posted by QuickLightning
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2
    Quote Originally Posted by rock_lobster
    Quote Originally Posted by CallousDisregard
    or are we just going to borrow and spend forever ?
    No, just for the next 3 years
    then we cut spending and watch the economy implode, hooray!
    How many years have you studied economics?
    0
    But I can read.
    I read many economist saying that printing money will cause inflation.
    I can also count.
    Spending money you do not have, with no way to pay back the money, is going to lead to bankruptcy.
    There is also the fact that much of our debt is held by a country that we don't really consider a true and loyal ally.






    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2
    Quote Originally Posted by rock_lobster
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2
    Quote Originally Posted by QuickLightning
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2
    Quote Originally Posted by rock_lobster
    Quote Originally Posted by CallousDisregard
    or are we just going to borrow and spend forever ?
    No, just for the next 3 years
    then we cut spending and watch the economy implode, hooray!
    How many years have you studied economics?
    enough to know there no agreement on what works and that i don't believe cutting spending in a recession will work.

    Funny though numerous numerous times Rock, or Call or Consultant etc. post "Spending is going to screw us" and you don't ask how many year they've studied economics. Bias much?
    I know that more government involvement = more problems, and I know that printing money out the ass and giving away money like it's candy isn't better for us in the long run.

    If Obama was cutting back on spending, you'd be all for it. Bandwagoner much?
    except i wouldn't because i don't believe thats the way to go. So do assume some more. Hell i've even said i don't agree with everything the stimulus did or the lax regulating of the bank bailouts.

    And the point of spending in a recession is not to continue it afterwords, you spend to help get things back on track and then you scale it back. You don't just throw all the chips in at once or pull them out at once.
    But the porkulus bill was planned to spend the money later, before the elections, in order to make the government look good in the short run, regardless of the long term effects.

    We wouldn't need to print a shitload of money if we had actually been saving while things were going well.
    True, but utterly pointless. If the Queen had balls, she'd be the King.

    Lastly, Tax cuts would just people saving the money instead of spending it, more then likely the same with companies. Or are you saying if you got a tax cut, you'd go out and buy a new T.V. even when you have no security you'll have a job next week?
    Tell me though, when your taxes go up next year, will that impact your decision to purchase something ?
    I mean, the taxes aren't going up, it is .....
    NANCY PELOSI: That wasn't a tax increase. It is-- it is-- eliminating a tax-- decrease that was there.
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/33419185

    It wasn't and increase, it was the elimination of a decrease ?
    WHAT
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    FUCK ??
    Your taxes, everyone's taxes will go up next year.
    Your paycheck will be smaller but this crone has the sheer gall to say it is not an increase ?

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    So wait, let me get this straight....I don't make over $250k, but my taxes will most likely go up? But Obama promised........ :5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2
    And the point of spending in a recession is not to continue it afterwords, you spend to help get things back on track and then you scale it back. You don't just throw all the chips in at once or pull them out at once.
    Problem is people become dependant on govt, these programs do not get 'scaled back' they become permanent and grow larger.

    When something goes wrong in my life I do not look for a govt program to help me. I suck it up and sacrifice what needs to be sacrificed to get it fixed. Problem is the current administration wants everyone to turn to them for help. Force companies to sink or swim. Reel in this lavish lifestyle and have companies the spend wisely.

    ...govt what will they think of next
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_lobster
    So wait, let me get this straight....I don't make over $250k, but my taxes will most likely go up? But Obama promised........ :5
    He also told you it would take sacrifice to clean the mess he inherited.
    That enormous deficit, that he voted for, when he was actually doing his job as jr Senator, that he has quadrupled.
    But don't worry, he is going to extend health care to everyone and that will eliminate the deficit.
    At least until Cap-n-Tax is passed, but those won't be taxes really because it will be the big bad energy companies that get soaked.
    There is no way, absolutely impossible that those companies will then pass on the cost to you, the consumer.
    Obama will step in and nationalize those industries too if they even try it.

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