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    Reaganomics
    You are aware that Reagan was President from 1981 to 1989 right? That chart only shows 1981-1983, which if we go by your past logic is the result of Carter's economic policies. Sound familiar? You know, the "economy sucks now because of Bush line"? Which way is it hawg? Are we going to say that the economic declines of 1981-1983 are a result of Reagan, in which case the current decline in the economy is due to Obama, or are we going to say that it was because of Carter, in which case we could blame the current economic downturns on Bush. Your choice; I don't care which option you choose.
    Of course, it's a lopsided extreme left liberal post, you know that chops and crops and leaves out the part they don't want you see and try to make it look the way they want you to see it.
    I agree that the chart is rather skewed and not very representative of Reagan's economic policies as he was focusing on damage control of the stagflation of the 70's. But I challenge you or anyone to prove me wrong on what Reagan did with respect to the government workers and air traffic controllers. Let a lone the money spent on Star Wars.

    So if we are going to assume that the first 3 years of office that a president is under represents the economic policies of the previous president, then what explains the recession/bubble burst of 1988/1989 and 1991/1992? Reagan was coming out of office and another conservative, George H.W. Bush was just coming in. I would argue that Bush continued the idea of Reaganomics as it was quite popular and shown previously as effective. Under that logic, Reaganomics failed.
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    it now makes sense why President Obama won the Nobel Prize


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    Here are some good ones..................


    The ketchup as a vegetable controversy or ketchupgate refers to a proposed United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food and Drug Administration directive, early in the administration of Ronald Reagan, that would have reclassified ketchup and pickle relish from condiments to a vegetable, allowing public schools to cut out a serving of cooked or fresh vegetable from hot lunch program child-nutrition requirements. The White House Office of Management and Budget estimated a potential US $1 billion annual savings in the cost of subsidized meals for low-income students.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup_as_a_vegetable
    I could not agree more. I think Regan is one of the most over appreciated presidents in history. Not to mention the fact that he pulled a couple of fast moves that people don't remember. Air traffic controller strike? He fired half if not more of ALL air traffic controllers that went on strike. Admittedly, they were not allowed to strike as they were government employees, however, they had no outlet to voice their grievances. He froze ALL promotions in federal government. There were NO promotions, what so ever in federal agencies for 2 years. How do I know this? My dad got screwed out of a well needed and deserved promotion during this time. Oh, Regan also forced government employees to pay into social security but denied them the use of the benefits. That went on for a year before the Supreme Court had to finally put the cabash on it. If I remember correctly, he also screwed over the postal workers some how, but I dont remember. Regan = a piece of shit as a president.
    I remember when reagan fired those air traffic controls. It wasn't like he just said ok your all fired. They threatened to go on strike. They were told they can't and after debating it for a while they went on strike. Even then they were given an oportunity to go back to there jobs without losing them and those chose not to. Then reagan chose not to let them have a job.

    Did you ever try to figure out why he froze all promotions on government jobs? Not that i can speak for the man but i would of at the time and still do think he was trying to limit spending to help out but i'm sure there are many other ideas as to why he did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBloodMaster
    Well I got news for all of you .......... we as a country have Unfunded Liabilities that are well Over $105 Trillion dollars medicare medicaid Socialism Security. That means IF we (the govt) took every penny that ALL the Fortune 500 companies make it would Only take 141 YEARS to PAY OFF and yet the govt just keeps Spending..........add another Trillion for healthcare! This has been going on for well over 70 years so to sit and Argue over what president did what is rediculous. All the presidents and All the congresses since 1930 are to Blame ! ALL OF THEM !
    agreed they are all con men with a paycheck.

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    We had a very good 8 years with George W Bush. He sustained the economy and spurred it and it grew. Even in the tougher times, he sent out stimulus checks, which consumers took to the stores and spent, and BOOSTED the economy and kept it going.

    This current Administration, took all of our money and spent it..... The largest wasteful spending in the ENTIRE HISTORY of any president in the WORLD.

    So, they sunk us and now look at the unemployment numbers and they are continuing to grow to new levels and are still on the up-rise , going the wrong way.

    They say they are saving jobs, but the numbers tell the opposite truth of what they are portraying...... And, they are still trying to spend and take on MORE debt load.

    Americans are waking up and this Administrations numbers are going WAY DOWN.

    You can only talk so much camouflage bull crap for so long and then people can see it's bull crap.

    So, we got change, it went from good to terrible and is continuing on that path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianator365
    Quote Originally Posted by hawgballs

    Reaganomics
    You are aware that Reagan was President from 1981 to 1989 right? That chart only shows 1981-1983, which if we go by your past logic is the result of Carter's economic policies. Sound familiar? You know, the "economy sucks now because of Bush line"? Which way is it hawg? Are we going to say that the economic declines of 1981-1983 are a result of Reagan, in which case the current decline in the economy is due to Obama, or are we going to say that it was because of Carter, in which case we could blame the current economic downturns on Bush. Your choice; I don't care which option you choose.
    Of course, it's a lopsided extreme left liberal post, you know that chops and crops and leaves out the part they don't want you see and try to make it look the way they want you to see it.
    He had to stop there because his arguement would be invalid if he showed the rest. Here let me give you the link.
    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=1120&full=1

    I love how people only post what they want. Reaganomics works.

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    Gotta love it:

    If I bash your guy it is because I am intelligent and see the light.

    If you bash my guy it is because you are a sucker.

    As I stated before, they are all wolves in sheep skin, it's just a matter of what "sins" you are willing to forgive.

    I win the internet. Game over.


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    Gotta love it:

    If I bash your guy it is because I am intelligent and see the light.

    If you bash my guy it is because you are a sucker.

    As I stated before, they are all wolves in sheep skin, it's just a matter of what "sins" you are willing to forgive.

    I win the internet. Game over.
    It can t be over my keyboard still works and i can still find stats to support what ever i want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBloodMaster
    Well Bob while I agree with you on your last statement................... I have to say that if you're offered a bucket of shit OR a bucket of shit...........which would YOU choose ?? Thats what Every Eligiable voter has had the choice of ! Republican or Democrat its still a Bucket of Shit !
    That sounds to me like a bit of a cop out. Politicians are far from perfect, but you still have the choice to pick the better of the two (or the lesser of two evils) and as long as you think "makes no difference, both suck" then apathy will get the better of this nation.

    Food for thought:

    Just look at the all the money required to run a campaign in this country. Do you really think it's possible to get to the top without some backroom deals that might compromise a strong conviction? How about the gamut of personal slander, unsubstantiated attacks, and insane amount of media coverage over trivial "weaknesses"? Last I checked, the major cable news networks are doing very well, ratings wise. Most people eat up all of this shit. What kind of people are we attracting to be future presidents?
    Maybe his example was a little off. It should of been a bucket full of shit and 3/4 full bucket of shit. Either way your getting shit.

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    We had a very good 8 years with George W Bush. He sustained the economy and spurred it and it grew. Even in the tougher times, he sent out stimulus checks, which consumers took to the stores and spent, and BOOSTED the economy and kept it going.
    ROFL! You don't actually believe this, do you? We suffered a catastrophic failure of the economy under Bush. He turned a 1999 projected $800 billion surplus this year into a $1.4 trillion deficit. The debt exploded under Bush. And you know who introduced the stimulus rebate plan? The Democrats. I'm not a fan of that type of plan, but it was the Democrats who did it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***
    This current Administration, took all of our money and spent it..... The largest wasteful spending in the ENTIRE HISTORY of any president in the WORLD.
    And you just made that up. On the spot. Your buddy Bush presided over the largest expansion of government since FDR, though. I'm sure you are proud of that, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***
    Americans are waking up and this Administrations numbers are going WAY DOWN.
    Actually, the numbers have been very stable. But don't go letting facts get in your way now.
    http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php

    Quote Originally Posted by deathgodusmc
    He had to stop there because his arguement would be invalid if he showed the rest. He let me give you the link.
    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=1120&full=1

    I love how people only post what they want. Reaganomics works.
    Ah, Reaganomics, where the rich piss on the poor. If you like massive deficits and explosion of national debt, yeah, Reaganomics was great. If you liked declining real wages and people sinking into debt, Reaganomics was great. Remember, not just Reagan practiced Reaganomics. So did both Bushs, and it has proven to be a colossal failure.

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