Thread: Charges brought on Navy Seal Commandos

I agree with Mud. I can somewhat support breaking rules to catch a criminal, but not once you have them.

That is my take on it as well.

We are better than them because we stand our moral high ground.

And COMMANDER, you insinuated that I am uninformed about BlackWater contractors.

You assert that many of them were injured and can't re-enlist. I know that many types of injury (such as hearing loss, like you cited) can prevent you from re-enlisting...in certain MOS's. But if you want to serve your country still there are many support positions and beating the ground with your boots instead of flying a helicopter or whatever pre-injury MOS one had.

I know quite a few contractors. I am one of the few males in my very large family that has not been in the military, but I associate with many current and former members of all branches of our armed forces. The ones that are in the US armed forces speak poorly of the Mercenaries we have hired. The ones I know who are contractors are perfectly fit for duty but wanted to make more money. Is that why they are defending our freedom? To make money? Hmmm... It seems every anecdote I can recall does not agree with your statements.

Further, regarding Hawgs service to our country as a member of our armed forces, he acts like a number of former marines I associate with regularly. They are all lefties, like me, Hawg, and others. Perhaps some of you think that members of the military are all on the extreme right? Well, most I know dislike BlackWater and dislike most of our current engagements. They go to anti-war protests. They write letters to public officials stating their position. A few of them even voted for Obama. They all regard the Geneva convention, the UCMJ and their duty as an integral part of their expression of patriotism. And when summoned for duty, they follow their orders.

Commander, you pose the question in such a way that the SEALs are without question being wrongfully punished; it is completely loaded. It is not a even a question if they are innocent. But how do you know they did not break the law?

Here is how I answer it:

If they broke the law, they need to pay the penalty. They signed up for that and those laws are what make us NOT terrorists. They must abide.

First, everyone is getting off topic and is spinning/sensationalizing what the story actually says.

Second, what Fox spun as the charges is not true. The Navy doesn't word them anywhere close to that.

Three, wait until the official word from the military as to what they charges are really going to be.

The SEALs aren't stupid and neither are their commands. If they refused NJP, it's because they know they are innocent. No one with half a brain refuses NJP for a Court Martial when they are guilty. Although like I said in my first post, they will get something and that is what my prediction is.

And since everyone likes pictures, here is the picture associated with the article:

Correction, they are coming to a conclusion of whether they broke the rules or not. It is a trial, there is a burden of proof that needs to be fulfilled, that is what these guys don't understand. A trial isn't automatic persecution.

No, clearly "trial" means they're going to tie them to a stake, accuse them of witchcraft, and then immolate them.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Originally Posted by Mudstalker

When it comes down to it, the SEALs broke a rule and have to be punished for breaking said rule.

"But the guy ordered Americans to be killed and drug through the streets!"

That sucks, it's war. Shit happens. Obviously they don't like to play by our rules, that sucks, but WE will still play by our rules because that's what makes us US.

Correction, they are coming to a conclusion of whether they broke the rules or not. It is a trial, there is a burden of proof that needs to be fulfilled, that is what these guys don't understand. A trial isn't automatic persecution.

And no one in the past has ever been made an example of. Why else would charges be brought up over a busted lip. I think its a reasonable assuption. Doesnt mean its 100% but still a reasonable thought.

A pure assumption deathgod. You have no proof that this is the case and you should preface your assumptions before you make them.