Thread: America's most "Progressive" cities also it's "whitest" cities. Coincidence?

Originally Posted by jason_jinx

You are a product of your environment no matter what your race. I consider myself a good example of that theory.

Under the law of stereotypes I should be vato loco with a bald fade and listen to chingo bling screwed in my 1980's oldsmoblie.

Instead I am who you see today.


Even when at the gym I see these small gangbangin wannabe's walking around all short with their bald fades blasting rap in the mini headphones.

If they only knew how stupid they really look. When most hispanics see other hispanics act this way I guess they want to fit in so they give in?
Fuck that, that mentality is for the weak.

I blame the parents, mtv, and people's ignorance on accepting their racially assumed social norms.


Maybe that is just here in houston? It was a hell of a lot different when I went up north for a week to WI


It really did not surprise me to learn that Denver, CO was at the top of the list. That city is full of win.

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Originally Posted by SoySoldier

I wonder what criteria they use to rank as liberal. I have been to many of those cities and it feels like Portland (which is not on that list) blows them out of the water.

I'm surprised Berkly isn't #1. Berkly = Fucking Crazy. (Outside of the school.)

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

Interesting look, from Census data is how many African-Americans are still located in the South. Kind of curious why that still is.

http://www.censusscope.org/us/map_nhblack.html

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Originally Posted by CivilWars

Not to speak for consultant but i think the question he is trying to ask without asking is basically a chicken and egg question. Are these areas progressive because of their lack of diversity, or do they lack diversity because they are progressive?

As I said before, lack of diversity is likely only tangentially related to "progressiveness"

"transit systems, density, bike lanes, walkable communities, robust art and cultural scenes" Those all need a relatively affluent population base. People can afford bikes and the arts and everything that goes with it. Denver, Austin, and Seattle all have a much higher median income than their surrounding areas, the only one without that big boost is Minneapolis.

Compare that to average income by race and you can see why there's a discrepancy in "diversity"

e.g. Median Incomes by regionAustin County: 72k vs Texas Average: 47k
Median incomes by race: White: 45k Black: 32k Hispanic: 38k

If the median income by race was equal, then you could start pointing fingers, but as it is, I think it's more about tax base, cost of living, and need for a highly educated labor force that is driving this.

Originally Posted by Talkos

As I said before, lack of diversity is likely only tangentially related to "progressiveness"

"transit systems, density, bike lanes, walkable communities, robust art and cultural scenes" Those all need a relatively affluent population base. People can afford bikes and the arts and everything that goes with it. Denver, Austin, and Seattle all have a much higher median income than their surrounding areas, the only one without that big boost is Minneapolis.

Minneapolis - $45k
Hennepin County - $61k

Austin - $51k
Travis County - $53k

Seattle - $62k
King County - $67k

Denver - $46k
Denver County - $44k

While Mpls. is lower than the others I definitely wouldn't say the others are much higher than their surrounding areas, in fact they're all lower except for Denver.

Originally Posted by jason_jinx

You are a product of your environment no matter what your race. I consider myself a good example of that theory.

Under the law of stereotypes I should be vato loco with a bald fade and listen to chingo bling screwed in my 1980's oldsmoblie.

Instead I am who you see today.


Even when at the gym I see these small gangbangin wannabe's walking around all short with their bald fades blasting rap in the mini headphones.

If they only knew how stupid they really look. When most hispanics see other hispanics act this way I guess they want to fit in so they give in?
Fuck that, that mentality is for the weak.

I blame the parents, mtv, and people's ignorance on accepting their racially assumed social norms.


Maybe that is just here in houston? It was a hell of a lot different when I went up north for a week to WI


It really did not surprise me to learn that Denver, CO was at the top of the list. That city is full of win.

First of all, i am not a racist.....so keep that in mind. I can agree with you Jason, according to the stereotypical world we live in i should be the wife beatin redneck with a beer gut who sits on his front porch and take shots at the small animals that run by....

You may be a product of your environment, but if you've EVER watched an episode of Gangland, all of you will know what im talking about. In Nashville, NASHVILLE for God's sake, they opened an automobile plant and in came the Hispanics (surprisingly, almost all of them were actually American). Shortly there after, guess what? Nice urban neighborhoods were turned into slums, gangs ran the city, and crime went up by as much as 78%.....in ONE YEAR.... And i'm not saying that all minorities are criminals and in gangs......it doesn't matter if you're white, brown, black, green, or orange....everyone is capable of the same thing. However, follow the trend.....and doing that, the article doesn't surprise me at all Consultant.

You may be a terrible product of your shit environment, but the shit product you became shouldn't become our environment.....

Originally Posted by Renegade.

Originally Posted by Talkos

As I said before, lack of diversity is likely only tangentially related to "progressiveness"

"transit systems, density, bike lanes, walkable communities, robust art and cultural scenes" Those all need a relatively affluent population base. People can afford bikes and the arts and everything that goes with it. Denver, Austin, and Seattle all have a much higher median income than their surrounding areas, the only one without that big boost is Minneapolis.

Minneapolis - $45k
Hennepin County - $61k

Austin - $51k
Travis County - $53k

Seattle - $62k
King County - $67k

Denver - $46k
Denver County - $44k

While Mpls. is lower than the others I definitely wouldn't say the others are much higher than their surrounding areas, in fact they're all lower except for Denver.

I'd say that a better measure would be city vs nearby city, if you look at the counties then a lot of it is suburban sprawl.