Thread: You thought your doctors were idiots...

Suing is not the problem... idiot judgments are the problem! Everybody should have the right to sue but judges and jury's should not get emotionally biased by whatever occurred and should truly look at whose at fault!!!

Originally Posted by Rawr

Well yes, mistakes do happen, but there still needs to be a revision to some of these lawsuits.

I think it's florida where their malpractice insurance for surgeons is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Here's a small example of why people shouldn't always be able to sue.

Woman brought her son to the dentist (who uses Nitrous Gas to put people out). She lied on the health forms and said that her son had no heart conditions (when he actually did). She also lied and stated that she hadn't given her son any medications lately, when she had given him nyquil to relax him.

Doctor used gas, son died in chair. Doctor was sued and mother won lots of money.

So yes, tort law needs to be altered.

Edit - just to make things clear, the boy died because of the mixture of medication and the nos, which the doctor had no knowledge of, since the mother lied on these forms. Doctor also had her career ruined for something that was not her fault.

And this is why if you are getting somethign amputated, you follow the lead of Dr. Gregory House and write "NOT THIS LEG, THE OTHER ONE" on the good leg...

Originally Posted by HuntnJade

Suing is not the problem... idiot judgments are the problem! Everybody should have the right to sue but judges and jury's should not get emotionally biased by whatever occurred and should truly look at whose at fault!!!

Originally Posted by Rawr

Well yes, mistakes do happen, but there still needs to be a revision to some of these lawsuits.

I think it's florida where their malpractice insurance for surgeons is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Here's a small example of why people shouldn't always be able to sue.

Woman brought her son to the dentist (who uses Nitrous Gas to put people out). She lied on the health forms and said that her son had no heart conditions (when he actually did). She also lied and stated that she hadn't given her son any medications lately, when she had given him nyquil to relax him.

Doctor used gas, son died in chair. Doctor was sued and mother won lots of money.

So yes, tort law needs to be altered.

Edit - just to make things clear, the boy died because of the mixture of medication and the nos, which the doctor had no knowledge of, since the mother lied on these forms. Doctor also had her career ruined for something that was not her fault.

Perhaps, but something like this shouldn't have even been allowed to enter a court.

I agree that frivolous lawsuits are damaging but! Who is going to decide what is and is not frivolous? I still believe the only way to end the stupid things being ran through our courts is to make them non-profitable. If you knew you would not win because it was stupid then you wouldn't bother trying. Idiots are the problem and unfortunately jurys (as well as plaintiffs)are full of them. We all get punished because people are soooooooo dumb! I do not want to be punished or lose MY ability to bring a lawsuit because other people abuse the right though, do you? We just keep making laws that we believe will help us- but in the end those very laws deprive us of our rights too. Although we set out to prevent a wrong we just created a even bigger problem.

Originally Posted by HuntnJade

Suing is not the problem... idiot judgments are the problem! Everybody should have the right to sue but judges and jury's should not get emotionally biased by whatever occurred and should truly look at whose at fault!!!

Originally Posted by Rawr

Well yes, mistakes do happen, but there still needs to be a revision to some of these lawsuits.

I think it's florida where their malpractice insurance for surgeons is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Here's a small example of why people shouldn't always be able to sue.

Woman brought her son to the dentist (who uses Nitrous Gas to put people out). She lied on the health forms and said that her son had no heart conditions (when he actually did). She also lied and stated that she hadn't given her son any medications lately, when she had given him nyquil to relax him.

Doctor used gas, son died in chair. Doctor was sued and mother won lots of money.

So yes, tort law needs to be altered.

Edit - just to make things clear, the boy died because of the mixture of medication and the nos, which the doctor had no knowledge of, since the mother lied on these forms. Doctor also had her career ruined for something that was not her fault.

Most of the lawsuits shouldn't even make it to "trial". And yes hawg, a huge cost of healthcare is malpractice lawsuits. It needs to be looked into.

Originally Posted by Rawr

Well yes, mistakes do happen, but there still needs to be a revision to some of these lawsuits.

I think it's florida where their malpractice insurance for surgeons is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Here's a small example of why people shouldn't always be able to sue.

Woman brought her son to the dentist (who uses Nitrous Gas to put people out). She lied on the health forms and said that her son had no heart conditions (when he actually did). She also lied and stated that she hadn't given her son any medications lately, when she had given him nyquil to relax him.

Doctor used gas, son died in chair. Doctor was sued and mother won lots of money.

So yes, tort law needs to be altered.

Edit - just to make things clear, the boy died because of the mixture of medication and the nos, which the doctor had no knowledge of, since the mother lied on these forms. Doctor also had her career ruined for something that was not her fault.

Is that where the suit settled? She won and that's it? Or did it go to higher courts? Because methinks that it would be overturned. Please post a link to this story, it would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by HuntnJade

Suing is not the problem... idiot judgments are the problem! Everybody should have the right to sue but judges and jury's should not get emotionally biased by whatever occurred and should truly look at whose at fault!!!

Originally Posted by Rawr

Well yes, mistakes do happen, but there still needs to be a revision to some of these lawsuits.

I think it's florida where their malpractice insurance for surgeons is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Here's a small example of why people shouldn't always be able to sue.

Woman brought her son to the dentist (who uses Nitrous Gas to put people out). She lied on the health forms and said that her son had no heart conditions (when he actually did). She also lied and stated that she hadn't given her son any medications lately, when she had given him nyquil to relax him.

Doctor used gas, son died in chair. Doctor was sued and mother won lots of money.

So yes, tort law needs to be altered.

Edit - just to make things clear, the boy died because of the mixture of medication and the nos, which the doctor had no knowledge of, since the mother lied on these forms. Doctor also had her career ruined for something that was not her fault.

Most of the lawsuits shouldn't even make it to "trial". And yes hawg, a huge cost of healthcare is malpractice lawsuits. It needs to be looked into.

Don't blame the court system for high insurance charges, blame the insurance companies. I have yet to see one quarter where the insurance industry has seen an actual loss, not less than projected earnings, but a LOSS due to malpractice lawsuits. Yet they keep posting bigger and bigger record years in profit.......
Have lawsuit awards gotten that ten times bigger or ten times more frequent in the past ten years to justify the rise in premiums? Or was it just to pad the CEO's and their corporate board cronies' pockets?
Yes, I know that lawsuits are a cost of healthcare, just like any other industry, but don't give me that shit that malpractice lawsuits are a "huge" cost of healthcare, insurance companies and ever faster pace of insurance premiums are the main culprit, as well as corporate run hospitals, like the types that Bill Frist owns.

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by HuntnJade

Suing is not the problem... idiot judgments are the problem! Everybody should have the right to sue but judges and jury's should not get emotionally biased by whatever occurred and should truly look at whose at fault!!!

Originally Posted by Rawr

Well yes, mistakes do happen, but there still needs to be a revision to some of these lawsuits.

I think it's florida where their malpractice insurance for surgeons is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Here's a small example of why people shouldn't always be able to sue.

Woman brought her son to the dentist (who uses Nitrous Gas to put people out). She lied on the health forms and said that her son had no heart conditions (when he actually did). She also lied and stated that she hadn't given her son any medications lately, when she had given him nyquil to relax him.

Doctor used gas, son died in chair. Doctor was sued and mother won lots of money.

So yes, tort law needs to be altered.

Edit - just to make things clear, the boy died because of the mixture of medication and the nos, which the doctor had no knowledge of, since the mother lied on these forms. Doctor also had her career ruined for something that was not her fault.

Most of the lawsuits shouldn't even make it to "trial". And yes hawg, a huge cost of healthcare is malpractice lawsuits. It needs to be looked into.

Don't blame the court system for high insurance charges, blame the insurance companies. I have yet to see one quarter where the insurance industry has seen an actual loss, not less than projected earnings, but a LOSS due to malpractice lawsuits. Yet they keep posting bigger and bigger record years in profit.......
Have lawsuit awards gotten that ten times bigger or ten times more frequent in the past ten years to justify the rise in premiums? Or was it just to pad the CEO's and their corporate board cronies' pockets?
Yes, I know that lawsuits are a cost of healthcare, just like any other industry, but don't give me that shit that malpractice lawsuits are a "huge" cost of healthcare, insurance companies and ever faster pace of insurance premiums are the main culprit, as well as corporate run hospitals, like the types that Bill Frist owns.

Having worked in the medical field for a while, I can see the fine line of where frivolous lawsuits meet people who are just downright stupid, and either way, they hurt the doctor. I worked for a ppo doc, who only accepted the best of the best insurance. We had a lady who was given all the info and pre-op/post-op papers, on a complete hysterectomy, and yet still, apparently after all was said and done.... surgery and all, she claimed she didn't know her uterus was gonna be removed, and proceeded to sue the doctor for 'malpractice'....

It's not frivolous lawsuits, it's the idiots who don't read what they are given (yes, pre-op and post-op notes were given for her complete procedure) and those who are greedy, that hurt the healthcare system. Malpractice insurance, directly influences the cost of a doctors visit(yes, even doctors want to actually make a profit in business), which in turn affects insurance costs. This one lawsuit, effected her entire practice, given she was a solo-practitioner, it was a devastating hit to a doctor that was absolutely on top of her game, on all levels....