Church

**Fajita!** · 02-17-10, 12:11 AM

Nope.

The could be a god, there could not, and I could care less.

**Jonas Quin** · 02-17-10, 01:30 AM

no, it there is a god, he stopped being around a long time ago, not saying he doesn't care its just that stuff kinda points to no one minding the store.

I've never had faith in what im told to, and if proof is given, then faith is pointless.

Religion has served its role, laws may now take its place, but we have some editing to do.

**Watsyurdeal?** · 02-17-10, 01:34 AM

I have way too many doubts about religion. Sure it has good things about it, but too many people abuse it for their own gain. Besides, some religious people that I know are annoying. They think they're so great because they believe they're going to heaven. I for one strongly believe if you live a good life and are a good person, you'll get into the heaven. If you're a little Hitler or Charles Manson, your ass will be...well, think prison but much worse.

And even if there's not a heaven or hell, I'm perfectly fine with endless sleep. I like my sleep

**T_Rattler** · 02-17-10, 12:32 PM

NO!!!
Only when forced to at gunpoint.

**ems_goof** · 02-17-10, 08:39 PM

I believe everyone has to find something to believe in. If it's church, then so much better for them - they've found something to give their life focus. I was raised by my mother to go to church, forced to sunday school / confirmation classes / etc, baptized Lutheran, confirmed Presbyterian, but it was all just through the motions for my mother's benefit. Nothing I saw or learned during that time ever gave me "proof" of the foundation of a specific religion, especially when one says they are better than another. Most religions I know of are based on one supreme being. How they come to that particular being is what differentiates them, but they still come to the same conclusion, giving them a commonality that they refuse to acknowledge. I think this refusal above all is what drove me away.
It's faith, in whatever someone chooses, that drives each person. My personal faith doesn't include an almighty savior, as I think if there were, He/She wouldn't permit such death / destruction in His/Her name, but I do understand and respect other people have different beliefs.

**deathgodusmc** · 02-17-10, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Consultant

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Originally Posted by Toad

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

That will be a drop in the bucket if they ever finish the skyskraper a church is building in altamonte springs. Nothing like building a 40 million dollar building for gods work because we all know he had to have a multilevel parking garage, radio station, news station, and a shopping center.

Whoa, really? If they have a "payday loans" place in there then we have truly come full circle.

No bullshit it sat for 5 years as a concrete skeleton with a crane next to it until they raised enough money to put glass on the outside of it. The state has been trying to find a way to take the building so it can be finished and im sure so they can make money off of it. Almost had it but the churches lawyer found a loop hole in the law.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brisan/2288980177/sizes/l/

Holy crap, I know exactly where that is. (From Winter Park & my dad still lives in Deland so I've driven that stretch of I-4 about 20,000 times.

I had no idea that was a church. I remember it sitting there unfinished for EVER.

In any event, grew up going to an Episcopal church a couple times a year - C&E all the way. That stopped around 10 years old or so after my folks got divorced.

Didn't do anything religious until college when I became a Christian. Now our family is members of a Presbyterian church. It's pretty laid back and we enjoy it.

Still isnt finished just has glass on it now. I live near that building and pass deland everyday on my to the job sites i have going.