I believe in science...

**Glitch** · 02-14-10, 11:04 AM

voted over weight

but seriously your logic is severely flawed. Should we start a religious mirror pole asking people to check the boxes of what sins they commit and use that as proof that they don't really follow their religion?

It would make as much sense

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aww crap I am smart enough to know I shouldn't even bother posting in these types of threads yet I did it anyway. /sigh

**flame** · 02-14-10, 12:28 PM

I drink... what is too much IDK but its at least 3 times a week, at home so no driving.
I eat what tastes good and weigh in at ~205 and 6'1" probably about 40-50 pounds overweight, considering I was 155 before getting married.
I dont smoke anymore. Never smoked more than half a pack in a day normally just 3-4 that was college/high school. To expensive and bad for the health were my reasons.

Oh and I believe in science and evolution. I also believe in god and the bible. Sure evolution is going on all around us, doesnt mean god didnt create a world that evolved and adapted as it changed.

**Drax1970** · 02-14-10, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Voted. I am overweight, and eat crap, but you know what, food tastes good, so I make an emotional decision to eat it.

What Civil said.... According to the charts I'm a whopping big 13 lbs overweight... but hey I call it like they report it.

CRAP food will be the death of me... if you consider Steak, Bacon Cheeseburgers, Shakes, and Fries crap food. (I don't even want to mention how much sugar I put into my body every day.)

**PowerCock** · 02-14-10, 01:32 PM

The drinking and the eating

**Saltspring** · 02-14-10, 02:02 PM

I have to laugh at this whole thread, merely because someone believes in science doesn't mean that they will do what science advises anymore than those who believe in a religion will do what their religion advises. Many religions advise things that science advises simply from obeservations over time. The bible advises against gluttony so does science. Really the whole point of this thread just pisses me off and is essentially inflamatory for no reason.

I do or am none of the things in the initial post and that has nothing to do with science or religion.

A. I hate smoking it stinks and make me feel sick just to be around.
B. I don't really like the concept that alcohol interferes with the functions of my brain.
C. I don't want to be overweight because it makes it some much more difficult to do things.
D. I despise people who drive under the influnence because they endanger other peoples lives, if it was only their own I could careless evolution would look after them
E. I may not be perfect or obssed when it comes to eating but I eat quite healthy simply because I like the energy I have when I do.

**Thorsen** · 02-14-10, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by cop1991

I said none of the above, sure I might have a burger once a week but in that moderation, it isn't bad for me.

I generally have stayed out of these discussions but I will lay out my opinion here. I am majoring in Physics, so some might throw me right into the super Atheist category but I am quite the opposite. Physics has only reinforced my belief in god because when you get right down to it, life, creation, existence... Everything has to be perfect beyond measure. For the big bang to have happened (BTW the bible says 7 days but I think that was just Moses putting it into terms we (The stupid people) could understand, I mean you imagine being shown vast darkness then balls of rock and fire flying around all over the place and try and explain that to people) everything had to be balanced perfectly, for us to exist, earth had to be right where it is not a couple miles this or that way. I just don't think its logical to believe that a series of "Accidents" and a trillion to 1 chances is what brought us here.

Actually, not at all. The problem people often have with this sort of thinking is the idea that our surroundings designed themselves around us and not the other way around. If Earth was farther from the sun, we would have evolved to those conditions. If Earth was all water, we would be swimming creatures. There's really nothing spectacular about Earth. Its just another habitable planet in the universe. If Earth was a gas giant orbiting outside the sun's habitable zone, none of us would be here. So you could argue that the universe didn't turn out so well for all those poor Jupiterians.

A recent study estimated that there are about ten thousand billion billion (Yeah ten thousand billion billion) habitable planets in the universe. Its natural as humans to think that the universe was formed perfectly for us. But the fact is that we're just one incomprehensibly small pinprick in the unfathomable vastness of space.

And to those who say the world is too perfect to happen "by accident" (Scientists don't believe anything happens by accident, but rather, everything has a cause and effect), consider this. Cancer, earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, disease, viruses, radiation, flooding, aging, miscarriages, blindness, deafness, paralysis, retardation, downs syndrome, landslides, erosion, famine, drought, extinction, meteor impacts, birth defects, stillbirths, MS, AIDS, Asthma, OCD, ADD, Bi-polar disorder, manic depressive disorder, hate, violence, war, starvation, poverty and countless other not-so-perfect things happen every single day on Earth.

Now I know Christianity has a good reason for those, and that's fine. I'm not arguing about that. But whether or not you think Satan is doing it, or it is the effect of millions of different actions and reactions occurring. Its still not anything close to perfect. In fact, God himself wanted the Earth to BE IMPERFECT as punishment for Adam and Eve's sin.

I'm not saying there isn't a God or a creator. I'm just saying that the apparent "perfection" of the universe does not in anyway prove he/she/it DOES exist.