List of shame

**Alundil** · 03-17-10, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Blakeman

That is all fine and good, but I have yet to find a school that teaches exclusively from the textbooks and yet to find a school system that enforces teachers to exclusively teach from them. Honestly I think it is a lot of media frenzy about something that parents themselves have more power to with their own kids school system and standards rather than what the textbooks say.

I had an ethics class in high school where the teacher handed us our textbooks, told us to page through them and then we handed them back. He told us that it is more important to be taught ethics from someone who knows them and understands them and can be asked questions than reading it in a book and having glazed eyes like most high school students do. I remember him because he was right and because that class was one of my favorites because of it.

Again it is the parents responsibility to know what and by whom their kids are being taught. If the school system doesn't want to do something the way they like they can always 'fill the void' in that section of learning themselves.... but I bet most parents feel that is too much work.

Responsibility is what a parent should excel at when it comes to their children but we have a society that is systematically eroding self responsibility, so I guess parents are just following suit....

Sorry for the rant, I have just run into too many folks lately that do not know anything about our countries history and are college grads.....

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Agreed

**laggyNgroovy** · 03-17-10, 12:20 PM

Rather like the sex ed argument. Fine, the parents should teach it at home if you don't want it taught in public school. But the problem is, they don't.

People perform to what is being tested. TAAS testing (at least here in Texas, I do not know what your state requires). Blakeman is right, if you've been given the general tools to perform a job, you should be able to pass the test. Instead, we teach to the test, base schools individual funding on the tests, now teacher's job ratings are being tied to the tests, and so forth.

**flame** · 03-17-10, 12:35 PM

VOTE!

That is your voice. I hat people that bitch and don't vote. If you dont like the options run for office. It seems everyone wants to bitch but no one will actually go vote and get involved. I write senators and represenatives, I vote in every election.

LOL @ laggy! your old! TAAS was 10 years ago. But I guess that makes me old cause I took the TAAS test. I aced it several years in a row, got fancy certificates from the school board. TAKS is the new test. Like them or not standardized tests are really the only way the state can equally gauge success across the state. Now educators are teaching to the test and thats not right. Give them the knowledge and skills of each subject and they will do fine on the tests.

**Red_Lizard2** · 03-17-10, 01:52 PM

being in one of the states with shitty education, had a few teachers that taught from the book (mostly history classes). and, at least here, standardized tests (AIMS) are a joke. They have dumbed it down so much i wouldn't be surprised if its at the point some 5th graders could pass the damn thing.