Thread: No good phones are for your carrier

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Originally Posted by WileECyte

The problem with the Android OS is that since it is open source, the OEMs can customize it with their own UI. HTC has their own 'Sense' UI that they have on most, if not all of their phones. Motorola has their 'Blur' UI. The Motorola Droid and Nexus One are the only 2 Android phones (and maybe the original G1) that don't use a custom UI. As new versions of Android are released, the OEM is then responsible for having to port their UI to the new version.

I love my Droid, but several phones have come out since that have me drooling. The Nexus One, HTC EVO and the Droid Incredible (HTC Incredible). Overall I'm happy with my Droid, but the newer phones are just so much more advanced and are much sexier in their stylings.

This is exactly the problem. Every phone runs a different firmware. My friend bought his Motorola CLIQ after I bought my phone and still can't get beyond 1.5 thanks to Motorolo's BS MOTOBLUR. He can't do a few things like the google GPS navigator which I use all the time. Every new android phone comes out with a different firmware and leaves the others behind.

That's the main reason I went with the Droid. It runs stock Android.

My wife has a Droid Eris, which she likes, but she's stuck with Android 1.5, which means no Google Navigation or plenty of other apps that require 1.6 or newer. Hopefully HTC/Verizon roll out the 2.1 update for her phone soon.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

They are supposed to have an android phone by this summer.

and doesn't the HTC HD whatever comeout on ATT? It's going to be real deal 1080 on the screen.

I'm with spring. Played with the HTC touchpro2....too big, too heavy...but so damn hot. Instead, I got the Samsung Moment. Droid (the HTC was windows6). Like it....BUT

I don't like ANYTHING that mandates I get some bullshit "gmail" account just to be able to use it. Can't download "apps" or do a lot of the perks without a gmail associated with it. And that's fucking ridiculous.

Same bullshit as apple....same lame ass business model....making your customers slaves to the machine and institutionalized so they can't migrate off of the sauce.

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

and doesn't the HTC HD whatever comeout on ATT? It's going to be real deal 1080 on the screen.

This one?

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touch...ification.html

Says 480x800 resolution. No idea why they would name it HD (but hey, it's the trend today to name everything HD). And honestly... it would be laughable to cram so so many pixels on such a small device. To use the same number of pixels on a 4" screen, that most people use on a 20"+ computer display?

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

I'm with spring. Played with the HTC touchpro2....too big, too heavy...but so damn hot. Instead, I got the Samsung Moment. Droid (the HTC was windows6). Like it....BUT

I don't like ANYTHING that mandates I get some bullshit "gmail" account just to be able to use it. Can't download "apps" or do a lot of the perks without a gmail associated with it. And that's fucking ridiculous.

Same bullshit as apple....same lame ass business model....making your customers slaves to the machine and institutionalized so they can't migrate off of the sauce.

I've got the Moment too... running rooted Android 2.1 right now which has a few cool bonuses not included in 1.5.

I guess I agree with you in principle about the Google account-centric stuff being kind of lame. But I was in the boat that I just so happened to already have google accounts, so I was able to go along with it easily. And honestly, the contacts syncing is really awesome. Especially now that I can use Google nav in 2.1, I can add addresses to my contacts, and then from the contacts page I can click one button to navigate to them. GPS was pretty much 95% of the reason I finally switched from dumb to smartphone (though I am using the web more than I thought I would). Sprint navigation works well, but I want my saved addresses synced somewhere external, and not tied to Sprint since I might not stay with them forever. Of course, I might not stay with Google forever either, so there is that problem. But honestly... unless you host your own server with which to sync (with your own data format, and write your own mobile apps to sync with that data system)... then you pretty much have to pick one devil or the other. And right now I prefer google over apple.

It's really no different than writing and saving documents in Microsoft word, for example. Maybe one day in the future you don't want to use MS Office software anymore, and now you are stuck with all these .doc files. What to do? Hopefully, convert them to another usable format somehow.

So, say someday in the future google take a wrong turn and I don't want to ride that ship anymore. What to do? Hopefully, get all my google contacts, emails, etc, and convert them to another format. Easy enough with emails, since gmail is usable through IMAP. Contacts... unless somebody writes some kind of script/app to help, it may be difficult to change contact systems. But still, compared to my old way of getting contact info from old phone to new phone (either via SIM card or by manually re-entering hundreds of #'s)... google syncing rocks.

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Same bullshit as apple....same lame ass business model....making your customers slaves to the machine and institutionalized so they can't migrate off of the sauce.

Stick it to the man!

Originally Posted by Veovis

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Same bullshit as apple....same lame ass business model....making your customers slaves to the machine and institutionalized so they can't migrate off of the sauce.

Stick it to the man!

You know, the problem is that the Man is probably gay and likes it when a big dog sticks it to him.

Originally Posted by Veovis

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Same bullshit as apple....same lame ass business model....making your customers slaves to the machine and institutionalized so they can't migrate off of the sauce.

Stick it to the man!

Yeah, by giving your business to the OTHER man. Unfortunately in the world of wireless, and many other industries, you need to have the man to have quality national service. I mean you could always go with MetroPCS, and hope you don't travel outside their 3 tower radius for your city.