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05-21-10, 08:20 PM #12
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If this were material for a court room, a hell fire missile or spec ops team wouldn't be the sanction he would face.
Although it does somewhat contradict the direction this administration has taken with AQ subjects doesn't it? If he falls into our custody before our bombs fall on his house, I am pretty sure it will go through the criminal court system.
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05-22-10, 02:52 PM #14Re: American Citizen on a Kill List
Yeah, the 9/11 commission didn't think anything of it, but the comments he made to an old neighbor about something big happening that would keep him from seeing the neighbor again are rather suspicious given that they were made just a month before 9/11. Two of the hijackers also attended mosques the cleric was in charge of in California and then later in Virginia. There were also witness testimonies of him having close door sessions with the hijackers.
This is why I don't mind that he's on the kill list, but I do mind that there is a kill list that American citizens can be put on.
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05-24-10, 01:45 PM #16
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Not sure that is the point that some in this thread are making Jester....
It is borderline over the line in terms of gub'ment's power. If in fact, there was no court case (secret or otherwise) that allow this person to be placed on a hit list then I find that to be very troubling. The reasoning is that there is nothing to stop the government, at that point, from deciding that something "else" is wrong and dangerous and needs to be stopped by any means necessary. The slippery slope of that argument is that it could be "you", lil 'ole you not doing nutin wrong. All of a sudden finding a missile with your name on it at the direction and discretion of who?
That this particular individual is "ok to kill" is not a problem with me. He's done some bad things and arguably will do more. It is the "Tom, Dick and Harry", the John Q. Public/Protester that I think could be the next target and that is what makes me really question this power.
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05-24-10, 02:32 PM #17
Re: American Citizen on a Kill List
And another thing - the "didn't do anything wrong" argument is not valid from a logical standpoint (nor from a Constitutional one either). Mainly because it is government who controls the definition of what is right and wrong.
If you allow, for the sake of "not doing anything wrong" the government, police etc. to search your house, your property, your accounts, your communications, do you honestly believe that you can safely say that "You've done nothing wrong"? Are you honestly able to make the statement that the "fine-toothed comb" and magnifying glass of the government (with access to everything or as near as) then you are naive and or delusional. Every single one of us does something that is against some statute or regulation somewhere. In many cases, inadvertently, not that it would matter given the age old cliche that "Ignorance is no protection under the law."
If they, tomorrow, up and decided that you mowing and watering your lawn on the same day is illegal and punishable by jail sentence
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05-24-10, 02:55 PM #18
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