Thread: A&M and the SEC

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

talk about a bad ass conference.

lol, its already bad ass

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

I'm saying that I believe they will wind up as a Notre Dame in the near future. Most especially if Texas teams like A&M move to a premier conference such as the SEC. Not only that, but unless teams like Oklahoma and Oklahoma state stay, the Big 12 is done as a major conference with any draw.

Oklahoma and Texas would stay, if the rest would is another story. Everything I heard during the summer was how fucked up the Big 12 shit is. Basically Oklahoma and Texas get most of the benefits, and the rest of the teams get the scraps left over. Unless the Big XII massively reform (which they won't, as then Texas and Oklahoma would probably leave, in typical dick move), its going down. I would bet A&M wants to go to the SEC because the money share is much fairer then the TxOk conference (reasons Colorado and mizzou wanted to leave, and I think a few others earlier)

I thought, though I could be wrong, Texas was one of the ones who didn't want to leave the Big XII during the "super conference" time, because the Pac wouldn't allow them to have their own television channel (and thus their own revenue advantage).

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

I thought, though I could be wrong, Texas was one of the ones who didn't want to leave the Big XII during the "super conference" time, because the Pac wouldn't allow them to have their own television channel (and thus their own revenue advantage).

Texas was one of the teams involved with negotiations with the PAC... In the end they didn't want to leave when they couldn't get their way, but they were 'promising' they could bring other teams from the Big XII (like A&M) and was a point of contention and one of the reasons motivating A&M to want to leave the Big XII in the first place. In the end it was beneficial for Texas to stay where they were in a conference, they basically run since Beebe is essentially Mac Brown's puppet.

from 2010 but this is basically the revenue share and how it is set-up in the Big XII:
Unequal revenue sharing will remain - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

apparently the Pac doesn't have revenue sharing yet, its 55% of TV revenue goes to the two teams playing in the televised game, with the other 45% going to the rest of the teams (if I read right):
Bud Withers | Equal revenue sharing hot potato for Pac-10 | Seattle Times Newspaper

Anyways I got the TV thing right, but that was about it xD. What I can find it sounds like Texas want to go to the Pac because they would be in more GOOD TV markets, and thus would help their own network (or something like that). Pac didn't want to let Texas have the network (and damn right decision too), so Texas didn't want to go to the Pac. The Big 10 is out of course (they wouldn't want a competing network in the conference), SEC would be out (their big deal with CBS would keep them from Texas imo), so seems it would be ACC, Big East, or Big XII.

I'm surprised Oklahoma isn't having a fit, they'd be heavily sought, and have a chance to swing OK State with them. Plus they wouldn't have the ESPN money and their own network to complicate matters. I'm sure the Big 10 (err 11...err 12), Pac, and possibly SEC would be interested

I think I read somewhere that while A&M filed the complaint with the Big XII about the Longhorn Network, there were other schools who quietly supported this complaint. It wouldn't surprise me if OU was one of them.

Originally Posted by WileECyte

I think I read somewhere that while A&M filed the complaint with the Big XII about the Longhorn Network, there were other schools who quietly supported this complaint. It wouldn't surprise me if OU was one of them.

One would have to think OU would have the biggest fissy fit about it (unless they want to create a Sooner network or something). Especially considering OU should have a good bit of weight to throw around if it wants to (The Big XII is basically OU/Texas and now and then a surprise story). I would think any of the decent teams should be upset by it. I could see Baylor, ISU, and maybe K-State not bringing it up (as they would be fucked if the conference dissolved). Tech might or might not, same with OSU. I would think Kansas would, as they have the basketball program to use as weight if they had to move conferences (love them in the Pac-12 for basketball).

The thing is it is not just about how good you are, but also about how marketable you are also. Why do you think the PAC and especially SEC want schools like Texas and A&M? It is all about TV markets. While OU has a very respectable university and athletics program the Oklahoma tv market is crap, and that is why there is a longhorn network, but not a sooner network.


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Originally Posted by CivilWars

The thing is it is not just about how good you are, but also about how marketable you are also. Why do you think the PAC and especially SEC want schools like Texas and A&M? It is all about TV markets. While OU has a very respectable university and athletics program the Oklahoma tv market is crap, and that is why there is a longhorn network, but not a sooner network.

Someone would still take on OU, crap market or not, if they said they wanted to leave. It'd be better for them to come with a team in a better market as a package, but I still think if OU wanted out, they could find a home in one of the other conferences.

Wow... leave it to Baylor to be a cock block. They are just upset because they are the red-headed step child that's going to be left behind because nobody wants them.

Pretty good article here: Texas A&M Aggies accepted into SEC, but legal threat delays move - ESPN