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**Bunni** · 08-01-12, 01:14 PM

Zend studio hands down, or eclipse if you are on a budget

Dreamwaver blows hard, there's some mvs extensions for php, have to tried em, leme know if you do...

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**DJ Ms. White** · 08-01-12, 08:20 PM

Having trouble finding a page where I can actually order Zend. I see DLs for free trials.

Is a linux environment preferable for developing for web (or in general) as opposed to windows?

Oh, and bunni, I also checked the MSDN site, right now, I don't see any php extensions for the release candidate for MVS 12. I see a bunch for the previous version though.

**Bunni** · 08-01-12, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Having trouble finding a page where I can actually order Zend. I see DLs for free trials.

Is a linux environment preferable for developing for web (or in general) as opposed to windows?

Oh, and bunni, I also checked the MSDN site, right now, I don't see any php extensions for the release candidate for MVS 12. I see a bunch for the previous version though.

I dev in both, Zend studio is what you are looking for. I'll link later tonight

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**enf** · 08-01-12, 09:31 PM

Buy Zend Studio 9.0 - the Leading PHP IDE

**AetheLove** · 08-01-12, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Is a linux environment preferable for developing for web (or in general) as opposed to windows?

This seems to me a rough equivalent to another question:

"I want to work with tools. Should I get metric?"

White... you need to narrow the scope. I can only think of a few specific languages/technologies that are used in web development that would push you hard in the direction of a particular OS. For the vast majority of web-tech, you can be productive on any platform.

Developing for the web can mean so many different things.

Bunni mentioned Zend and eclipse. I've used eclipse, and I thought it was fine in some ways and kinda rough in others. I've used IntelliJ IDEA (the paid version) and that was quite nice. It supports many languages common in web dev.

There are many other choices. If you're just getting your feet wet, don't stress over it. You don't need a fancy IDE to get your feet wet.

Just pick one go make "hello world".

Cheers,

AetheLove

**salty99** · 08-01-12, 09:51 PM

Something I did a couple weeks ago to jump right in was just downloading the Amazon windows7 search gadget for your desktop, went over the source code and reverse engineered it reading and rewriting line by line. It was a great way to get a hands on intro into HTML, CSS, Javascript, and learning how to build XML files. I was able to learn some basic button/event creation and modification, web navigation, scripting, and some other things. I've done plenty of low-level/hardware/machine-code programming but web-development was still a fairly new area to me. Great way to jump in, in my opinion. The amazon widget is very clean and organized with some fairly elegant code too so it's easy to follow

**LAYGO** · 08-07-12, 06:06 PM

The last 3 years of my 13yr web developer career, I've done:
PHP
ASP (vbscript)
JSP
(X)HTML
CSS
JavaScript
JQuery
Java

Not counting frameworks like Symfony/Struts/Spring/etc.