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    Dual AGP,PCI-e and DDR, DDR2 combo for under $65

    What do you guys think of this mobo. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157115

    i think i might have to buy it

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    Looks good and will get the job done.
    Dont expect it to be overclock friendly though.

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    I am guessing it cannot use an AGP and a PCI-E card at the same time, and that you cant have both DDR and DDR2 RAM running simultaneously. So you have the OPTION of using either.

    So ask yourself... what are you using now?

    If you have DDR2 and PCI-E graphics already, screw this mobo!

    If you want to transition slowly and are using DDR and/or AGP now this MIGHT be good.

    That being said I never recommend "transitioning" as your long term cost is higher. Just save a small bundle and buy all the new stuff you *need* at one time.

    I personally would never use a transitional board like this; too much room for buginess with all those ad hoc busses.



    Quote Originally Posted by jason_jinx
    Dont expect it to be overclock friendly though.
    Listed under "features" of this Mobo:

    Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed AGP/PCIE/ PCI Buses
    Hybrid Booster - Safe Overclocking Technology



    Dont really know how accurate their statements are as it does look like a scraping the barrel mobo to me.



    I always thought the point of OCing was to make your cheap hardware as fast as the expensive hardware...


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    this is almost the same board as my 775dual vsta...................dual core vs. quad core. Asrock doesnt allow you to change voltage on the vsta, which means you cant OC a 2.66g Pentium D805 farther than 3.4g. this sux because 3.6g is the sweet spot for the D805.
    but considering you can plug almost anything into this board, including 5 different types of RAM i think its a great bang for the buck without having to upgrade all your other hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoySoldier
    I am guessing it cannot use an AGP and a PCI-E card at the same time, and that you cant have both DDR and DDR2 RAM running simultaneously. So you have the OPTION of using either.

    So ask yourself... what are you using now?

    If you have DDR2 and PCI-E graphics already, screw this mobo!

    If you want to transition slowly and are using DDR and/or AGP now this MIGHT be good.

    That being said I never recommend "transitioning" as your long term cost is higher. Just save a small bundle and buy all the new stuff you *need* at one time.

    I personally would never use a transitional board like this; too much room for buginess with all those ad hoc busses.



    Quote Originally Posted by jason_jinx
    Dont expect it to be overclock friendly though.
    Listed under "features" of this Mobo:

    Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed AGP/PCIE/ PCI Buses
    Hybrid Booster - Safe Overclocking Technology



    Dont really know how accurate their statements are as it does look like a scraping the barrel mobo to me.



    I always thought the point of OCing was to make your cheap hardware as fast as the expensive hardware...
    Soy why dont you back off my ass and read some forums or review sites rather than quoting what the manufacure says.
    We all know they can be misleading at times.

    Can you overclock? yes
    Can you overclock high? maybe or prolly not.
    Overclock friendly? no
    Good board that will get the job done? yes


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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_jinx
    Quote Originally Posted by SoySoldier
    I am guessing it cannot use an AGP and a PCI-E card at the same time, and that you cant have both DDR and DDR2 RAM running simultaneously. So you have the OPTION of using either.

    So ask yourself... what are you using now?

    If you have DDR2 and PCI-E graphics already, screw this mobo!

    If you want to transition slowly and are using DDR and/or AGP now this MIGHT be good.

    That being said I never recommend "transitioning" as your long term cost is higher. Just save a small bundle and buy all the new stuff you *need* at one time.

    I personally would never use a transitional board like this; too much room for buginess with all those ad hoc busses.



    Quote Originally Posted by jason_jinx
    Dont expect it to be overclock friendly though.
    Listed under "features" of this Mobo:

    Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed AGP/PCIE/ PCI Buses
    Hybrid Booster - Safe Overclocking Technology



    Dont really know how accurate their statements are as it does look like a scraping the barrel mobo to me.



    I always thought the point of OCing was to make your cheap hardware as fast as the expensive hardware...
    Soy why dont you back off my ass and read some forums or review sites rather than quoting what the manufacure says.
    We all know they can be misleading at times.

    Can you overclock? yes
    Can you overclock high? maybe or prolly not.
    Overclock friendly? no
    Good board that will get the job done? yes

    Whoa... easy J. I was just noting that the manufacturer says they have special overclocking features. I also cast doubt on it's ability to do that regardless of that.
    Dont really know how accurate their statements are as it does look like a scraping the barrel mobo to me.
    I say that because several reviews I read say it had voltage issues.

    I also stated that my opinion is the board is not worth using because of it's transitional architecture.

    So why dont you stop being so sensitive, realize I was never on anything of yours to back off of. You said "dont expect it to be overclock friendly though," and I was simply relaying the manufacturer claims it is. I also say that their claim is not worth much.

    The board is crap and thats what I stated in more words. You said it "looks good" and I disagree. This is about helping nightfall evaluate this board. I mention that overclocking is how you get cheap parts to mimic the expensive parts because this is a cheap Mobo. Please note that I mention the reasons the board fails my evaluation; not that it is "good" or "bad." Also note, nightfall did not ask is this mobo good AND CAN I OC IT?

    Your response was basically "the mobo is good but you cant OC it."
    The problem is:
    A: Mobo not good.
    B: you can OC it, maybe not high due to the voltage issues but this is irrelevant anyway because he did not ask about it.

    Dont take it personally when my recommendation disagrees with yours. Especially when I did some research on the part and you just say "good" without saying why. I am here to help them, not fight with you, so do not attack me.



    Back on topic:
    I still do not recommend transitional mobos.


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    Yes the board is crap.
    To some this is what people need for some odd reason.
    Just because Bigdog is in love with AGP does not mean others need to follow.

    For AGP this might be the newest item you can get.

    I think you might hear from all of us that it is better just to do a complete overhaul and go LGA775 PCIx16 and ddr2

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    They still dont make mobo's with both an AM2 and a LGA775 slot .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil900
    They still dont make mobo's with both an AM2 and a LGA775 slot .
    That would require 2 extra bridge chips, 2 extra bios and a doubling up a mess of other shit; making said mo-bo stupidly expensive - you can plug a agp and a pcie slot into one set of bridge chips without to much extra fiddling, similarly supporting ddr and ddr2 isnt that complicated,
    But wow trying to support to different CPu chips is way into the land of in-feasibility and is heading fast for the bordering of impossible. Could it be done? ya probably. Will it? I highly doubt it.
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