Apple=Fail

**HeavyG** · 08-02-09, 06:48 PM

I own Creative products. I have had several Zen players: Zen Sleek, Zen Vision M, Zen Stone... all great products. I got a Zune, and it was too much of a pain in the ass for me... I returned it.

**Cybs** · 08-03-09, 01:34 PM

Interesting timing that I read this post. On my home theatre system there is an iPod dock (It's a flip down deal in front, not a cable). Since I was doing house work I figured I would plug my iPhone in there since my iPod was at the office. The iPhone pops up with unsupported hardware... blah blah blah but it let me use it in "Airplane Mode", whatever the fuck that is. It still played but there was no usable display on the iPhone and nothing on my TV although I'm not using a HDMI out from the receiver. So I had no idea how to get to the song I wanted unless I just randomly flipped through music.

**dex71** · 08-03-09, 03:05 PM

The reason for the proprietary chip....

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_727170I...l?search=wadia

**bobbarkerissatan** · 08-03-09, 03:31 PM

But that's Jobs protecting you from the evil third party hardware that wants to corrupt you. Just like Microsoft!

/sarcasm

Yeah, there was a time when I could use my iphone on linux, sync wirelessly, it was beautiful, but then Apple decided to really lockdown their itunes music database and broke the software solution that linux users were using. ITUNES ONLY! Fuck you Apple.

**Big_Boze** · 08-03-09, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

So I bought a new,second generation ipod Touch this week. Really a nice little Walkman....but that is about all I can do with it. I wanted to hook it up to my home stereo,and since it is a digital product,I wanted to connect it with either digital coax,HDMI,or fiber optics....seems reasonable enough.

Well....thats where the fail comes in. I paid $135 for something I thought would be perfect at Best Buy. Just a little docking station that had fiber and HDMI outs on it. Popped on the ipod,and it sounded spectacular....for about 5 minutes. Everything was perfect....until Apple's little proprietary chip detected that my ipod was not hooked up to an official Apple product. A little window popped up,and told me that I was not using an Apple supported product,and shut the ipod down.Re-tried it several times with no luck. So much for that idea....

So,I went to the local Apple store. Now I know why they have the chip in them. Apples version of the same docking station (with digital outs) was $370. FUCK THAT!! Imagine my surprise. Who would have thought that anyone would want to hook up a product that can hold 200+ cd's to a freaking home stereo.....I must be out of my gourd. I ended up back at Best Buy,and paid $10 for a cord that runs from the headphone jack on the ipod,to the analog ins on the stereo....sounds like crap,but at least there is sound coming out of the speakers. About all it will be decent for is the occasional podcast.

This is the first,and last Apple product I will ever buy. Fuck them and their proprietary bullshit. I hope that assholes body rejects his new kidney for not being a licensed Apple product.

Fuck Crapple.

Zune is where its at :9

**CanadianPersian** · 08-03-09, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyG

I own Creative products. I have had several Zen players: Zen Sleek, Zen Vision M, Zen Stone... all great products. I got a Zune, and it was too much of a pain in the ass for me... I returned it.

+1

me too! i've had a creative zen vision m for like 3 years now! still works perfectly. it's awesome, i looooove it. awesome sound. although if i had money to throw away, i'd get the newer ones with the crystilization feature. i have that on my sound card and it actually really makes a difference.

**dex71** · 08-04-09, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by dex71

The reason for the proprietary chip....

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_727170I...l?search=wadia

For that kind of $( $300 ipod+$400 dock),might as well get a cheap laptop,and put itunes on it,and connect it with an HDMI......it could do sooo much more.

**Veovis** · 08-08-09, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Veovis

I will have to do some test with CD audio from my PS3 over optical SPDIF vs lossless digital rip (or as close as possible) on my iPod over stereo cable. Of course, some of this will come down to the strengths of the digital processor in the iPod.

Finally got around to doing this test.

320kbps mp3:

1) processed in iPod and sent over analog cable to receiver
2) sent from PS3 over optical SPDIF for processing in receiver (or... was it processed in PS3? not sure... but I am guessing the receiver)

Option 2 sounded marginally better than option 1 (but it was CLOSE, and I mean very close). However, I am positive this has to do with the differences in digital processing quality between a pocket mp3 player and a $500 receiver. I still maintain my original position that an analog connection can carry high quality audio fine, but that fact doesn't really help your original problem.

**DonVitoJr** · 08-08-09, 02:12 PM

Im not having any problem with my dock. Mines an iHome docking station. I think you should look into buying one of the iHome's. I've had mine for 2 months and still works fine.