Thread: Why must there be Melee Fatigue in Campaign/SP?

Well, you and I both know that many of the people who are playing on expert just want an achievement, so have the achievement require the melee counter (from now on, I'll refer to it as 'MC') so if the people who want the achievement have to have that teamwork, skill and luck to make it by, but if (hypothetically) me and my 3 pals want to play expert, just for the heck of it, and we just can't seem to make it past the third level, we have the option to turn off the MC. I'm not saying that you should be able to change it in-game, although it does seem like I'm implying that.

You know, like in many games, there is a 'super hard' difficulty, reserved for the '1337est of the 1337', but there is also the group of pals who wants a challenge, but doesnt want it to be ridiculous.

Also, not implying that I cant beat expert, or anything without corner camping. I had to pick someone for an example and I just picked me.

Originally Posted by Target Practice

A challenge is something to be relished, not feared. It appears some of the guys in here would prefer life on easy street.

Oh, I see what you did there you cheeky son of a bitch . I'll remember that, don't you worry.

But how is disabling the melee counter to help you get through an Expert campaign any different to, say... an infinite ammo cheat? If you wanted to just have a mess around with your buddies, you can always just get a server and turn on god mode or something.

What you seem to be saying is that you want a challenge, but not *too* much of a challenge... if that's the case, I believe that's why 'Advanced' difficulty exists. If you can't handle expert mode, don't play expert mode, don't just play "expert" mode with an option switched on that makes a group of players and a good camping position nigh-on unkillable.

(Oh, and to clarify, "you" is a collective thing, not just you, Chuck. )

See, therein lies my problem. Advanced is too easy. In L4D1, Expert was just right. Easy as long as you stay far away from infected, and take them down from a distance. Sure, there were times when it all went to hell and we had to do the same level four times, but it was fun because the difficulty was just right. And while a MC adds another layer of balance and fairness, I don't see why you shouldnt have the option to turn it off if you were to start your own server.

Originally Posted by RebornPanda

We Can't. Were on 360 and I don't want to get Permbanned for modding.

Without wishing to start a console vs PC war (because I hate that kind of thing more than you could possibly imagine), that is unfortunately the price you pay for console gaming. Yes, it's considerably cheaper, but you lose a great deal of flexibility and customisation.

And Chuck, I actually agree with you - I too feel that Advanced was a touch too easy in L4D1 - but how much of that was the dreaded melee spamming? Think about it - if you lose that 'insurance' that no matter how badly it goes wrong you can always melee your way out of it, suddenly Advanced looks a lot tougher.