Thread: The Kill Cam

if i find a good spot where i can mount a effective defense i should not have to worry about the other team GHOSTING using the kill cam let them figure out where i got killed from with out "Cheating" ghosting is cheating in every other fps game it should be in this one as well. its not up to any one else to decide what is effective or not in cs i have sat in the same spot and caped off a whole team in one round by finding the right place to use a sniper rifle

Originally Posted by usmcjohn1148

if i find a good spot where i can mount a effective defense i should not have to worry about the other team GHOSTING using the kill cam let them figure out where i got killed from with out "Cheating" ghosting is cheating in every other fps game it should be in this one as well. its not up to any one else to decide what is effective or not in cs i have sat in the same spot and caped off a whole team in one round by finding the right place to use a sniper rifle

That's cool, but if your guarding hostages or bombsites, those objectives dont ever move. It is your job to sit and camp those spots. In Cod4 your objectives change constantly and are always moving, and so should you. Everyone needs to stop comparing COD4 to counterstrike and every other game out there because every point made comparing games is shot down, and irrelevant. Either play Cod4 or go play css, make a decision.

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by usmcjohn1148

if i find a good spot where i can mount a effective defense i should not have to worry about the other team GHOSTING using the kill cam let them figure out where i got killed from with out "Cheating" ghosting is cheating in every other fps game it should be in this one as well. its not up to any one else to decide what is effective or not in cs i have sat in the same spot and caped off a whole team in one round by finding the right place to use a sniper rifle

That's cool, but if your guarding hostages or bombsites, those objectives dont ever move. It is your job to sit and camp those spots. In Cod4 your objectives change constantly and are always moving, and so should you. Everyone needs to stop comparing COD4 to counterstrike and every other game out there because every point made comparing games is shot down, and irrelevant. Either play Cod4 or go play css, make a decision.

The fact is, the objective is not constantly changing in COD4 depending on the gametype. On HQ maps, sure. On domination, no. Sabotage, somewhat. Most of the time the killcam isn't going to be a factor, but there are times that it is.

Voted: Yes to Killcam

I think the Killcam works somewhat like the CCS tracer.

rock most of the time i am with you but this time i am not it all depends on what mode of the game you are playing if you are playing domn the objectives don't change like hq i cant count on my hands and feet the number of times i have been killed by the person i just got thru shooting not just luck its watching the kill cam and coming after who shot you effectivly ghosting to get the advantage on some maps and gamemodes you are right rock 100 percent

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by usmcjohn1148

if i find a good spot where i can mount a effective defense i should not have to worry about the other team GHOSTING using the kill cam let them figure out where i got killed from with out "Cheating" ghosting is cheating in every other fps game it should be in this one as well. its not up to any one else to decide what is effective or not in cs i have sat in the same spot and caped off a whole team in one round by finding the right place to use a sniper rifle

That's cool, but if your guarding hostages or bombsites, those objectives dont ever move. It is your job to sit and camp those spots. In Cod4 your objectives change constantly and are always moving, and so should you. Everyone needs to stop comparing COD4 to counterstrike and every other game out there because every point made comparing games is shot down, and irrelevant. Either play Cod4 or go play css, make a decision.

Originally Posted by usmcjohn1148

rock most of the time i am with you but this time i am not it all depends on what mode of the game you are playing if you are playing domn the objectives don't change like hq i cant count on my hands and feet the number of times i have been killed by the person i just got thru shooting not just luck its watching the kill cam and coming after who shot you effectivly ghosting to get the advantage on some maps and gamemodes you are right rock 100 percent

Originally Posted by rock_lobster

Originally Posted by usmcjohn1148

if i find a good spot where i can mount a effective defense i should not have to worry about the other team GHOSTING using the kill cam let them figure out where i got killed from with out "Cheating" ghosting is cheating in every other fps game it should be in this one as well. its not up to any one else to decide what is effective or not in cs i have sat in the same spot and caped off a whole team in one round by finding the right place to use a sniper rifle

That's cool, but if your guarding hostages or bombsites, those objectives dont ever move. It is your job to sit and camp those spots. In Cod4 your objectives change constantly and are always moving, and so should you. Everyone needs to stop comparing COD4 to counterstrike and every other game out there because every point made comparing games is shot down, and irrelevant. Either play Cod4 or go play css, make a decision.

If the objective isn't moving, and neither are you, killcam on or off it doesn't matter, its your responsibility to watch your six and check your corners and all the other good stuff. Getting killed by a guy you just killed is going to happen either way, so remain aware of your environment. Don't just hide in your one little hidey hole and get tunnel vision, your going to die that way, and quick, in this game.

Killcam shouldn't affect how your approaching your game. Stay aware and always be checking your area or your going to die either way, on or off.

It seems that part of your argument is assuming that if killcam is off your going to be able to successfully hang out in a sniper perch or other good spot overlooking a critical area and rack up multiple kills, easily. Don't say its not, because you've said it. These areas are well known and killcam off isn't going to increase your survivability. Only your skill and situational awareness is going to do that.

Whether its on or off, a skilled player is going to rotate their perch or position in the building, move to another window, displace to cover the entrance to the perch in order to get the people who know your there, etc. Sitting still shouldn't necessarily rigidly mean sitting STILL.

Maintain your general area and do your thing but either way, if you sit in the same spot for any length of time at all, you are going to die quickly. Especially in this game, the maps ARE NOT like CSS, period. Every area is easily accessible from multiple angles and approaches...sometimes from front, back, left, right, over, and under!

And rifle mounted grenade launchers, RPGs, or high powered bullets through walls or obstacles are going to reach anyone, anywhere. There is no safe place to hide for any longer than a few kills at most, even if you have UAV Jammer, silencers, Dead Silence, whatever.

i have played on servers with it off and i can guarantee that defensive positions are more fairly maintained no matter what you say . no one can say that the enemy knowing the area that they got killed from is good for any one but the person who just got killed.kill cam would be ok if the respawn delay was 20 seconds and you spawned at a start point like dod but you dont and i think its the same as ghosting and any serious server out there besides us believes the same thing

I like the kill cam. There's been several times that I've been killed and never saw the guy although I looked right at him. I'm not sure if there's a couple of clipping spots or what but it's nice to know where the heck that came from. I don't play for competition. I play for enjoyment.