View Poll Results: Is this teamplay?
- Voters
- 12. You may not vote on this poll
-
Yes
4 33.33% -
No
8 66.67%
Results 41 to 50 of 50
Thread: Question about teamplay
-
07-05-11, 11:16 PM #41
Re: Question about teamplay
Agreed, I don't think this was to start a fire honestly, I think it was to get a concept of what most people thought. I think he got a honest answer based on the exact information of the question provided. I think it also has been determined that MANY missing facts for the exact situation this poll might of been based on. But most people have also stated after more of the situation was revealed, that the answers would not exactly be the same as the original question that we all voted on.
-
07-06-11, 12:16 AM #42
Re: Question about teamplay
I dont think salt necessarily meant ill will, but he is putting me in a situation where he is challenging me. There are the eight guys that were in the game that know who he is talking about. He is trying to make a point. Thats ok but call it like it was. Take into consideration the variables and subjectivness of the game. Then take into consideration who the player is. Do they have a history of ditching a team. These things would of made your approach alot more understandable for me. The way it stands currently your attempt wasnt for community gain or growth but serving yourself in trying to say you were justified in your opinion.
The part I have the hardest time with was the rage quit. Getting mad at me or someone in heat of the moment happens. I regretfully do it as much as anyone. But we talk it out and reason with the situation.
For you to come make a post about teamplay and basically the "TPG way" of doing things and know you blatently and without any grey area chose to break one of the biggest and most look down on actions we at TPG despise really takes some nerve. Your rage quit could of been a three page post like the one you dragged me into salt.
I hope you see this, learn and move forward. I dont hold any of this against you and will be happy to see the salt i know and love.
Sorry i got angry when you challenged me.
Smoke
-
07-06-11, 12:21 AM #43
Re: Question about teamplay
I do enjoy playing with you usually Sheriff but I find you often do not have much faith in your team and that can be frustrating. This was worse as it felt like you completely abandon us, which you did.
Yes I chewed out Tenrou for the night before because when we had enough points to win he simply took off on the final without saying anything leaving the rest of his team wondering where he was, so I wanted to make sure shit like that didn't happen this game.
As to what happened in the tunnel it is very hard to chat while a tank is swinging at you and you are dodging away. The tank wasn't terrible but the three of us did exactly what we should spread out and back away from the tank so he could only go after one of us at a time which works very well in the tunnel due to the fact it is hard for the special infected to attack from the flanks and with the auto snipers we could chew away at him rapidly. I personally find that tunnel one of the best places to fight a tank as long as the person being chased doesn't run into the side tunnels or lead the tank to his teammates.
I've also never understood why people are afraid of tanks, yes I get that if your health is low or you have tier 1 weapons it is often better just to try for distance.
I don't like bailing on people but there was no way I could be civil this time. There are a lot of games where people annoy me but I can keep my cool enough to finish, this wasn't one of those times. It took me about 15 min's to calm down enough to even apologize to the people on my friends list who were in the game and even then I was still a bit pissed and bitched about you a bit Sheriff. I don't like to fight, I am not good at saying things the right way so that it doesn't seem like an attack. Generally I say exactly what I mean and feel.
-
07-06-11, 12:58 AM #44
Well I must say I commend both of you for remaining civil. I honestly thought this thread was going to turn into a war zone but I'm happily wrong haha
-
07-06-11, 08:36 AM #45
Re: Question about teamplay
I had a hunter waiting for him to come out. Was going to try and catch him before he got in, but by the time I realized just what he was doing it was too late to rush up there and get a spawn. So I just set up for the hole and kept an eye on Smoken so if he came out I could tear him up
-
07-06-11, 05:15 PM #46
Re: Question about teamplay
Blah blah blah. Smoke, I'm not reading your novel.. all I care is this: Did you communicate your intentions with your team? Did they respond? If so, did they respond in favor. Those are the only facts that matter. If you did, great. If they didn't respond, that's on them. If they did, and most were in favor, great. If they did and the only to respond was against it, and no one else said anything, you need to assume your team didn't want you to do it and get back with your team. I don't care if it was you in this situation or Sukka, the rules apply to us all. Granted, mistakes and miscommunications happen (don't believe me? Ask Knee about last night when we had a miscommunication). And the "thick skin" argument is a non-issue.. unless you think CSS admins need to get thick skins.. but oh wait, you are one...
In the end, all these issues are easily resolved by communication.
-
-
07-06-11, 05:19 PM #48
Re: Question about teamplay
In fact, the resolution of this is STILL a PM issue. Finish this there, kiss and make up (Salt, Smoken drools, so get a napkin) and be done. then go play. Locked.
-
07-06-11, 05:47 PM #49
Re: Question about teamplay
Look - I was there and I absolutely see both sides. Long and short is that you are both right and both wrong.
There was a judgment call - was it right maybe. Salt got pissed and Smoken responded in kind. The fact that Salt was pissed is understandable, the fact that he bailed not very teamplay.
Salt, consider whether there were other things going on that night. In a prior game you were capped outside the gun room on the Barns level of Carny because a teammate shut a door before you got thru. I've never seen you get pissed off like that over a simple mistake and I've played multiple games with you for over 3 years. I have to believe that you were somewhat predisposed to jumping on these kinds of issues.
Smoken, you made a call. And given the instant situation it may have been the right call. That being said, you have the skill and the leadership to drive a team through those tough situations. You also are quick to defend your actions, agressively. You will also admit when you are wrong, even in hindsight.
All in all it could have been handled better by both of you.
-
07-06-11, 08:03 PM #50
Re: Question about teamplay
Walker I love ya but here... you hit a nerve.
The game is situational and has variables. That is the only point that matters here. Those things trump your communication argument. Sometimes you dont have time too or while people are speaking your not hearing. While I have chosen to take the high road in and not cry about it here is the fact.
Fact is I got attacked by salt, defended myself land he raged quit. Brought it to the forumns where he tried to rehash again. I simply have defended my actions. Not as wrong or right in running from strategy aspect but definitley right in I was trying to teamplay.
Do not come in here and talk down to me in your tone, i dont give a shit who you are. I dont even need to quote all your stupid bullshit you spewed here. All of it should of been directed somewhere else then at me. I did nothing wrong. Nothing. Dont blanket me in having fucking blame in this situation. I do enough on my own to deserve blame. I dont need to be sweated when im not in the wrong.
Well, the only question here is a strategy based one. That is not what we are here to discuss. We are here to discuss actions and attitudes unbecoming of TPG. Mine were obviously not. 1000% not. Maybe from some one elses perspective it was the wrong strategy move and that may upset them. Fine... I do make wrong choices as we all do. So the "book" i took time to write and let you make your smart ass remarks about was important to me. Was important in trying to alllow Salt to see my perspective. Frankly I dont give a shit whether u read or not. Not cool by u. Lastly the "thick skin" argument does apply.
Because thick skin is what keeps someone from coming in here and making moutains out of molehills which is exactly what we have here.
Get a clue on being helpful and not little man syndroming me. I would expect more mutual respect than that. Im a grown fucking man, you go play!
Drool on this.
SmokeLast edited by SmokenSherriff_; 07-07-11 at 12:01 AM.
Thread Information
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks