i cant be a part of this anymore

**11Bravo** · 11-24-07, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by ritz

Maybe you should observe the words in my signature at the bottom of my post. I believe it pertains to everyone.
if it is unintended, and unforeseeable given the current circumstances, how does it apply except as a warning that you might get shit on (or praised)

It's meant to remind people that not all ends are forseeable, nor controllable once things have been said or done, therefore one must always guard against it and be willing to accept the consequences of choices made.

Peace Man

**sacredsarcasm** · 11-24-07, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by ritz

Originally Posted by *11*Bravo-Pathfinder

Originally Posted by ritz

if you cannot change anyones beliefs but your own,
{people should change their beliefs when they arrive at the point that they see it needs to be changed, no matter what your will is, that is not how things in life work. One can attempt to lead a life in such a way that it inspires others to see the good of it; but not all will see or agree}.
nothing but truth as i see it...ridiculously twisted (sounds like how i used to write before lawyers turned me into who i am today)

why is there an admin abuse forum {so far you have yet to prove any abuse accordingly}
i havent proven abuse because i never intended to...this thread was moved here against my will

but it was moved here by someone else {at the point there is no basis for it, then it's incumbent upon you to realize it; becomes your move then}
its my move that i cant control where my post is....i fail to see my burden of proof when it is a manufactured case...i merely wanted to say goodbye with a bit of thought attached...we all brought it to what it is today

it started as a goodbye, and morphed into this {here is where you went wrong; it was never a goodbye, goodbyes don't last that long; you have continued to be wrong the more you attempt to justify yourself}

yes i flamed a post....and it was against my own ideals {sucks to be in conflict doesn't it?}....i agree....
conflict can be good....conflict within yourself shows you that you arent dead...if there is no conflict you are in a dream world

however, truthfully, a lot of the people here are assholes, and since they opened it up with insults {your goodbye post was veiled insults according to everyone here but you}
it was never an insult....if i disagree with you publicly or privately, but i do so respectfully, is it insulting?...is so then oops.

ill use my own....that is why i flamed, because it seems as if all TTP is on the surface is flaming {at what point will you learn to know a thing; before ascribing to it your beliefs}

when one knows something it is in ones beliefs...i fail to make a connection other than that you are implying i pick up beliefs before i know something....i am not quite understanding that....i merely used their tactic (a common tactic everywhere) to make a rhetorical point

'there can't be any Wars or Fights, if no one shows up on the battlefield'
very true...but i fail to see the point within this argument...how does this have anything to do with admin abuse?

Originally Posted by ritz

while these may not be punishable offenses here, they are to me....{so you see it as your duty to punish bigdog ???}

we all hold those who commit acts (any acts) accountable in our hearts or in our minds

Maybe you should observe the words in my signature at the bottom of my post. I believe it pertains to everyone.
if it is unintended, and unforeseeable given the current circumstances, how does it apply except as a warning that you might get shit on (or praised)

well this thread was moved against my wishes, and as i have no case, i ask that this thread be considered and judged on by its merits

everything now is useless rhetoric

i do ask that instead of a simple yes or no as to the presence of admin abuse, can i also request a statement that either affirms or denies the possibility that transparency will be considered as a necessity to democratic debate.....i hope you can glean my intentions, if not please request that i clarify my final position

this was so fun i put my christmas skin on firefox... thanks guys. I love the holidays.

**ritz** · 11-24-07, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by *11*Bravo-Pathfinder

Originally Posted by ritz

Maybe you should observe the words in my signature at the bottom of my post. I believe it pertains to everyone.
if it is unintended, and unforeseeable given the current circumstances, how does it apply except as a warning that you might get shit on (or praised)

It's meant to remind people that not all ends are forseeable, nor controllable once things have been said or done, therefore one must always guard against it and be willing to accept the consequences of choices made.

Peace Man

alright...i just wanted to make sure i got it right...lol

**ritz** · 11-24-07, 08:24 AM

yeah thats why i picked green...i thought yall would like that...

it feel like 34 in houston

in dallas it feels like 33....lol

**~~Cecil900~~** · 11-24-07, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ritz

im staying....

Why are you staying? You said you can't stay because of "personal beliefs". Get out, no one wants you here.

**Hocus Pocus** · 11-24-07, 11:48 AM

eh lets not get this going again. He knows where he stands as far as our views.

**~~Cecil900~~** · 11-24-07, 11:50 AM

Ok Hocus.

**...bigdog...** · 11-24-07, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by ritz

if you would like ask those who have played with me, i am not the best 2142 player, but i do play with the spirit that TTP holds dear...so please dont attest to my gall if you do not know me...i have explained all this before, please read everything or do not comment

is that the same you gave to me?

You fucking know me? You, and your 10 post history before all this......a short term, non-regular, non-reservist, non-admin, non-resident.....knows me....and TTP's "foundation".

You got exactly what you were looking for in this thread. You are part of another community, something that appears you are involved in founding. You wonder how a cursing, zero-tolerance admin communtiy can achieve anything great (just like I said in my original thread....that this was likely about language and cursing in a MATURE RATED GAME....pathetic).

You snuck around with pm's and insinuations, likely for the purpose of drawing away our better regulars, and those you perceived to be on the fence.

And maybe some of them are on the fence. No matter how great we are....the idiots on the fence are the ones too lazy to get involved and read/participate. And they stay on that fence....safe from me and TTP...because they keep their disinterest and indifference to themselves.

They don't come in here....ADMIT they know nothing...but start tossing out judgements.

you did do that. And you got stomped. It appears you have changed your line, edited some messages, deleted some "omgzors, TTP admins are Nazi's, OMG LOL doug!" pathetic jabbings on your home site....just sad.

So, now...here we are.....at the end. Abuse claim, even though you gave no direct accusation...invalid.

Issues with TTP's foundation and prinicples....defeated.

Community education about such principles, regular user loyalty and pride.....confirmed (thanks for that).

Did I bait you into this? Did I call the shot, and get you to deliver exactly what this community needs to grow and mature? Did I use you as a training and thinking tool for those in TTP who might have been on that fence, and needed something to get them to come off?

........am I smart enough to do stuff like that?

It's too bad ritz. Behind the scenes, there's some admins out there that still hold you in high regard. But now....you're just an outcast. A hater. A lurking, spying, competing community founder, trying to model yourself after TTP....but realizing you don't have the nuts to understand what TTP is.

Thanks for your help, ritz.

Originally Posted by ritz

OM FING G

i dont think you are unfair...i think you APPEAR UNFAIR

you fucking idiots...

do you fucking read?

user banned.

any admin seeing him in game is authorized to ban him. he can re-register, and make his case with a clean slate....if he so wishes.

**...bigdog...** · 11-24-07, 08:58 PM

locked.

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