CSS Admin Abuse - BigTymer

**bry** · 12-05-09, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

or you can realize you screwed up by first not following the call, and second by disrespecting the admin for pointing that out to you

So now I was not following the call? That's not what happened. If that was the case, I never would have said what I said. I do not know why he slayed me in the first place. I was the last alive T trying to outsmart two CT's and he slayed me, out of nowhere, with no warning. That's why I'm here. Then I come to the forums and suddenly there is a whole slew of other accusations as to what happened.

In fact, he did not "point it out to me." He jumped right into slaying me. Ending the round since I was the last person alive trying to finish off the last two CT's.

So no, I will not "realize I screwed up in the first place by not following the call" because that's not what happened. I do admit that I was out of line in saying "that was gay," and this is the third, fourth, fifth time that I have said that. I apologized twice in the unban thread and I'm getting more responses over here than over there.

I am not disrespecting anybody, I am simply stating my case.

**vafaskillz** · 12-05-09, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by bry

Originally Posted by CivilWars

or you can realize you screwed up by first not following the call, and second by disrespecting the admin for pointing that out to you

So now I was not following the call? That's not what happened. If that was the case, I never would have said what I said. I do not know why he slayed me in the first place. I was the last alive T trying to outsmart two CT's and he slayed me, out of nowhere, with no warning. That's why I'm here. Then I come to the forums and suddenly there is a whole slew of other accusations as to what happened.

In fact, he did not "point it out to me." He jumped right into slaying me. Ending the round since I was the last person alive trying to finish off the last two CT's.

So no, I will not "realize I screwed up in the first place by not following the call" because that's not what happened. I do admit that I was out of line in saying "that was gay," and this is the third, fourth, fifth time that I have said that. I apologized twice in the unban thread and I'm getting more responses over here than over there.

I am not disrespecting anybody, I am simply stating my case.

Bry, I am with you. Allow me to lock this and look into this personally.

**Glitch** · 12-05-09, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by bry

I apologized twice in the unban thread and I'm getting more responses over here than over there.[/b]

Just a fast FYI

You get more response here because the rules are a bit more lax here (I can not post in your unban thread unless I am a direct witness) also here all the admins seem to be more involved publicly because if there is a case of admin abuse they all want to address it quickly and effectively, where as the unban threads is more between you and big tymer until your vote goes up

Hope that helps you understand the differences between the 2 threads.

**~BigTymer~** · 12-05-09, 09:00 PM

Now that I can comment on all this. My power has been out due to a little snow storm that Alabama isn't use to.

Bry, you was banned for your comment. You said Admins gay or thats gay. It was disrespectfull. I'm not going to spend my time explaining our rules inside the server. Thats what the forums is for. Thats why you was banned. I even voted to unban you cause you now know. Admins are busy trying to police the servers and we do not have the time to babysit and coach everyone through the rules. So you was banned for your smart remark. You made it, NOT ME. So how did I abuse you? I don't get it.

**~BigTymer~** · 12-05-09, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by bry

Originally Posted by CivilWars

or you can realize you screwed up by first not following the call, and second by disrespecting the admin for pointing that out to you

So now I was not following the call? That's not what happened. If that was the case, I never would have said what I said. I do not know why he slayed me in the first place. I was the last alive T trying to outsmart two CT's and he slayed me, out of nowhere, with no warning. That's why I'm here. Then I come to the forums and suddenly there is a whole slew of other accusations as to what happened.

In fact, he did not "point it out to me." He jumped right into slaying me. Ending the round since I was the last person alive trying to finish off the last two CT's.

So no, I will not "realize I screwed up in the first place by not following the call" because that's not what happened. I do admit that I was out of line in saying "that was gay," and this is the third, fourth, fifth time that I have said that. I apologized twice in the unban thread and I'm getting more responses over here than over there.

I am not disrespecting anybody, I am simply stating my case.

Bry, when your entire team is on the other side of the map dying because they followed the call you can not even consider that you would get to finish the round when you was not even close to following the call. I would think I would get punished as well.

**bry** · 12-05-09, 11:16 PM

Vafaskills, do what you think is right. If that means locking this thread then you should do so.

BigTymer, I will not argue with you any further about what happened. I think I made my case and stated my point of view between this thread and the unban request. Those who wish to look it over now can go off of what has already been said.

Thanks to everyone who has taken time to read this. I know this stuff is not your favorite thing to do.

**vafaskillz** · 12-06-09, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by bry

Vafaskills, do what you think is right. If that means locking this thread then you should do so.

BigTymer, I will not argue with you any further about what happened. I think I made my case and stated my point of view between this thread and the unban request. Those who wish to look it over now can go off of what has already been said.

Thanks to everyone who has taken time to read this. I know this stuff is not your favorite thing to do.

Bry, after doing an investigation, I have come to the conclusion that Bigtymer was not wrong in slaying you. If the whole team rushed B and died trying to get the bomb down and you were still in B courtyard, then you essentially bailed on a rush and lolligagged your way into B. Now, your intentions were probably good ones-you wanted to watch the rear to slow down the CT flank, which is an effective way to win. But, next time just make sure you clearly communicate your intentions to the team leader, or else there may be consequences and we will end up right back in the abuse/banned forums. But I do want to make it clear that Bigtymer was doing his job correctly and his slay was justified.

Your case is still under review, but I will go ahead and say that most of the CS admins feel you "get it" and we look forward to your return on our servers. If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to message me or Bigtymer and we can discuss things further.