Not pointing at a specific admin

**Hitch** · 11-09-10, 11:12 PM

Game ended at 10:55 PM, 11/09...CTs won.

T's were winning by 7 rounds to 2, I believe, on Lost Temple Pro, no unsportsmanlike conduct going on. Vic Mackey made effective calls. Teams were not flagrantly stacked; the CT's were not holding sites and were running a little loose around the map.

Admin switched some key players to the CT side and forced some trades over 2-3 rounds. T's lost EVERY round after the final switch.

The chemistry was 100% destroyed and not corrected after even 6 straight rounds of CT recovery.

Please be mindful of OVER CORRECTING a map that may lean (in my opinion) a bit CT. T's did manage to plant 2-3 times after the change-up, however, defuse was the result. Some trading may have been necessary, but not so much that the T's get bashed-in without reconsideration within 4-5 rounds.

Thank you for reading,

Hitch

***COMMANDER*** · 11-10-10, 01:05 AM

Noted, we are discussing it with them.

**iravedic** · 11-10-10, 01:46 PM

Balancing the teams is as much an art as it is a science - and many times is imperfect at best. Based on our conversations these moves were made specifically to encourage our primary goal - the promotion of teamplay. The CT"s had a serious deficency in teamplay, so the admin made a decision to move some players to both balance the skill set and the teamplayer credential of the teams.

I know that it can be frustrating to get a team on the same page and rolling just to have some of the key players stripped out, but it happens and always happens for the right reasons. The goal of the team who looses a key player is to determine how to overcome and adapt to that change. Sometimes the skill balance gets out of whack but IMO that is a reasonable cost to pay to acheive our primary goal - promotion of teamplay. The team on the short end of the skill stick, needs to carefully gaurd against developing a defeatist attitude and work to adapt and overcome the new challenge.

**vafaskillz** · 11-11-10, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by iravedic

Balancing the teams is as much an art as it is a science - and many times is imperfect at best. Based on our conversations these moves were made specifically to encourage our primary goal - the promotion of teamplay. The CT"s had a serious deficency in teamplay, so the admin made a decision to move some players to both balance the skill set and the teamplayer credential of the teams.

I know that it can be frustrating to get a team on the same page and rolling just to have some of the key players stripped out, but it happens and always happens for the right reasons. The goal of the team who looses a key player is to determine how to overcome and adapt to that change. Sometimes the skill balance gets out of whack but IMO that is a reasonable cost to pay to acheive our primary goal - promotion of teamplay. The team on the short end of the skill stick, needs to carefully gaurd against developing a defeatist attitude and work to adapt and overcome the new challenge.

Hitch, I completely agree with Ira. Any response to this?

I think you have great potential to be a leader and a game changer as much as myself, pimp, toker, Mr Blond, etc. But instead of viewing the positives of your team, you look at the opposing team and lose confidence. I guarantee if you realize the potential your team has and stop looking at names on the other team, you will surprise yourself. Take the negativity out of your game.

**Hitch** · 11-11-10, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by vafaskillz

Hitch, I completely agree with Ira. Any response to this?

I think you have great potential to be a leader and a game changer as much as myself, pimp, toker, Mr Blond, etc. But instead of viewing the positives of your team, you look at the opposing team and lose confidence. I guarantee if you realize the potential your team has and stop looking at names on the other team, you will surprise yourself. Take the negativity out of your game.

Thank you for stating potential.

I understand the benefits of not letting guys get disemboweled in what should be a social event. Someone will win, someone will lose. This is fine. A stacked ass-whipping is not always sportsmanlike. Turning the tables too hard-over to make things fair is a bit wrong too.

My reasons for posting in here (admin abuse section) are as follows:

a) the top gunner/scorer from our side as well as a few other keys were moved...where he/they continued to own the place, review the scores if possible
b) I messaged the admin system to seek a little reprieve...to no avail; as the tables were rolled obviously too hard. Gnar Killing should post his version of the events, honestly, as should any other gamers who would like to CONSTRUCTIVELY contribute.
c) Vic and I motivated each other, as well as a few other players to not quit until the map was over (negativity was in check for several of us, however, we did not go vocally bitter due to the known effect it would have)
d) I wanted to see if this post stimulated anybody else to participate (carefully) in this touchy thread section

The admin/admins that managed this round may interest themselves in understanding what it is like to be over-taxed for earning the rounds we had thus far. Lost Temple Pro is not an easy map to T-dominate when the teams are balanced. We were a little heavy due to Vic's calls being strong, Gnar Killing being sick accurate and our crew not deviating from the plans.

The CT's needed discipline as much as they needed a #1 shooter from our side; unfortunately, they got more than was reasonable, otherwise we would have won at least one of the remaining 8-9 rounds.

I'd appreciate anybody reading this to understand that I am not shouting, crying or feeling suicidal. I am hoping this is read to aid in constructive thought.

Hitch

**Stealthyking** · 11-11-10, 09:59 PM

This has been discussed and the issue is resolved between both parties, This can be locked whenever someone feels it necessary. The "over stacking" that was mentioned here was caused by voluntary actions of players in the server at the time and not admin discrestion.