Admin abuse in Project Reality

**=VGA=Faizon** · 02-05-11, 06:47 PM

I posted very briefly last night. But i feel compelled to lodge a complaint formally with a new post. I was kicked from the server last night for NON-Teamplay.

Background:
The first thing i want to point out is that =VGA= has helped populate, prime, and seed your server for a couple of months now, religiously.

With that said, what took place.

I joined the server with =VGA= Not_by_bread_alone (as i've done so many times before), When i joined there were 4 players:
1. Raddarat
2. Asianator
3. Bravo
4. Specops scott

(not by bread joined shortly after)

I joined asianators squad with raddarat. When i joined asianator left and radarrat become sl.

I went to the Known cache and was scouting, when radarrat RUDELY said :" you guys can come over here and help me any build at anytime now".

I responded with "You could try being less, rude. Everytime I play with you I have a bad experience" (and that is the truth, usually i keep my mouth shut for the better good).

After saying that, I left the squad created a new one, at which time a new player (don't remember who it was). joined me in my search (teamplay) for the KNOWN cache.
After watching for a while i rtb'd.

On the way back to base despite how rude he was and even though I had solved the problem by leaving the squad and creating my own, i stopped and helped raddarat build his mortar.

We had just taken an rpg, and i was returning to base (nearly 10 minutes after the confrontation with raddarat) when i was kicked for non team play.

I want to point out for the record the only person guilty of non teamplay WAS RADDARAT, who was in the desert BY HIMSELF while the rest of the team was closing in on the known cache (all 2 of us)

I feel disrespected and seriously feel like raddarat went out of his way to cause problems last night.

I can tell you with certainty that neither me or not by bread will be back untill i recieve a formal apology from radarat, and/or the admin who felt it was necesary to kick me.

It's a bit of a slap in the face to be treated like nobodies when both me and not by bread bend over backwards to help populate and create enjoyable games with you guys on teamplayer.

**11Bravo** · 02-05-11, 07:28 PM

[Buffer] KICKING!!! =VGA= Faizon for not being a TEAM PLAYER and Supporting your TEAM !!!
[20:32:50] =VGA= Not_by_bread_alon -> WHo Kicked Faizon
Welcome to a ModManager enabled server!
We need Admins and dedicated teamplayers, please register and be a part of the best gaming community in the USA.
[20:33:30] =VGA= Not_by_bread_alon -> Hed Like to know why he was kicked fro not being a teamplayer.....
Welcome to a ModManager enabled server!
[20:34:08] =VGA= Not_by_bread_alon -> Anyone
WARNING!!! =VGA= Not_by_bread_alon There is no discussion in game sir. If he'd like to go to the forums for a discussion that is where it will take place.
§3§c1001The enemy is attacking! We have 8 Weapon Caches left in the area.
§3§c1001Check the map and defend them before it's too late!
§3§c1001Intelligence reports the enemy have 8 Weapon Caches in the area.
§3§c1001Check your map for approximate Weapon Cache locations.
WARNING!!! =VGA= Not_by_bread_alon There is no discussion in game sir. If he'd like to go to the forums for a discussion that is where it will take place
Welcome to the TeamPlayerGaming PR v0.95b server
Welcome to a ModManager enabled server!
WARNING!!! =VGA= Not_by_bread_alon I said he needs to go to the forums
[20:35:40] =VGA= Faizon -> well guys it's been real
[20:35:59] =VGA= Faizon -> never playing here again and i will make sure none of my friends do either
[20:36:07] =VGA= Faizon -> so glad i helped you guys...
BANNING!!! =VGA= Faizon NON-TEAMPLAY
BANNING!!! =VGA= Faizon for Not Being a Team Player..... Appeal @ TeamPlayer Gaming - The Front Page

That is what I have for now. Next time there are clear directions on how to handle business, we expect players asking for answers to read the responses. I am the one who issued the kick. I am the one who gave several in game admin responses to Bread. I am the one who finally handed out bans. To the both of you.

There was no malicious intent. No admin abuse. I was given direct orders to try to keep both of y'all on the same team. Care to take a guess as to why that is Faizon? Why don't you enlighten everyone here about how using information from the opposing team is team play. That you could not have knowledge of unless your team mate was on the other side.

You have seen me warn other players for the exact same thing. You have seen me ban them. To be honest, I have appreciated your efforts to help prime. Up until it was observed by several admins that you were sharing intelligence with your friend Bread or he with you, then we have a problem. I have not only banned players for that unfair game play, I have also banned other admins. As much as you might help the server by priming and being there.

When you compromise the integrity of the game play on the server, then you are considered a liability to our goals and ideals. In CS:S they consider that ghosting and worthy of an immediate ban. In PR we struggle to provide a fair server hoping that players when they get switched by the game choose to keep their knowledge too themselves.

I will not ever compromise information that I might have from being on the other team. I will not ever use that knowledge to destroy known embattlements. I willingly choose to forget that knowledge as soon as I go from one team to another. I ask that any player that joins my squads to keep anything to themselves and not erode the integrity of the game. Hell, I've had guys join my squad and start rattling off information and I tell them to keep it to themselves. If they keep quiet they live to play on the server; if however they don't, well it's a ban as soon as I'm able to free my hands from the mouse.

One final thing worthy of mentioning. I was not on the server before you and bread. I joined after y'all were on. I was there in squad with Bread as he went on a mission to explain just how upset he was about your kick over VoIP. If he had been reading chat instead of sharing your words over the in game squad voice, yes I heard you in the back ground telling him exactly what to say, this could have been a civil discussion.

As it is, I'm compelled to bring out the hardware. I have warned you as an admin through the game console in the past about giving out locations of things you could not have known without help. To be honest, you have placed yourself and Bread in a bad situation and then decided to be haughty. You are not without fault.

**=VGA=Faizon** · 02-05-11, 07:30 PM

no body told us to get on the same team

**11Bravo** · 02-05-11, 07:36 PM

-1 Admin None ServerMessage [20:29:10] WARNING!!! =VGA= Faizon Would you please switch to the MEC side of the map Faizon??

Straight from the logs sir. I issued that myself.

**=VGA=Faizon** · 02-05-11, 07:37 PM

i was issued no directives PERIOD and if you want to ban me that fine. I'm going to blackball the server and your group. Additionally i will open my own. Have a good one. Sorry I helped you.

AND IT VERY CLEAR THAT YOU ARE LYING

Tell me
how does teamplay have anything to do with being on opposing teams
and if it was an issue of me being on an opposing team....why wasnt bread asked to switch or vice versa.

To assert that I've seen you warn other players for the same thing is ludacris, more over
ADMIN ABUSE!!

Despite the fact that me and bread sit side by side BREAD HAS NEVER SHARED INTEL WITH MORE OR I WITH HIM that wasnt publicly posted in the server, in which yo uthreatened to ban me. At which point i refrained.

Not to mention i was no where near an UNKNOWN cache...(or was i) since i was on my way back to base from your known.

I encourage further investigation in this issue. AND DEMAND AN APOLOGY.

However based on your BLATANT LIES...i will not worry about it. It's clear you know you were wrong and now have to make stuff up.

I wish the best to the rest of my friends at tpg

YOU SHOULD JOIN VGA

**=VGA=Faizon** · 02-05-11, 07:40 PM

perhaps talking to me like a fellow gamer will yeild beter results instead of treating me like some scumball
YOU BRAVO WILL BE BLACK BALLED IN EVERY SERVER POSSIBLE

i have over 1200 friends on xfire that play this game many are admins
i will personally make sure that they feel the same way I do

**iravedic** · 02-05-11, 07:48 PM

And with that you can move on. All of this drama over a simple kick?? you really need to get your priorities straight. No abuse in the Kick of a player for failing to heed Admin directions.

Case closed.

***COMMANDER*** · 02-10-11, 06:15 PM

2 players, sitting in the same room, need to be on the same team. We protect the integrity of the server. Not saying that yall share information, but anything can be overheard or seen, since yall are together.

What is sad, I heard a lot of compliments about yall and stated that if you came to the banned forums, we could enlighten you on why you were kicked and when you came back with Admin disrepect, why you were banned. We were willing to go an extra mile to sort this out for you.

However, your attitude and pride got in the way. You come to the forums and instead of discussing it, demand an apology, berate an Admin for doing his job and then tell our members to join some clan......

You got alot to overcome and the first thing is to get over yourself. You had an opportunity to fix this, but you blew it kid. Sorry you took this road instead of taking the high road.