Thread: Give credit when it is due

Not to sound contrite or anything but last few times I have come into one of the TTP servers and gotten on the teams being rolled, I attempted to rally up the needed classes, and the plan and attitude to push and win. And when I did I was met with some people, people mind you that I don't see on the server all the time, just telling me sir yes sir in a sarcastic way, people don't change classes when I say hey we could use another medic and not 2 snipers. Its frustrating and it just makes me go back into my little I just gonna be a follower not a leader place again. Which to me is bad because without more leaders to step up, there are going to be more and more times like this when the normal movers and shakers aren't on,

That's true, Omni. You can expect about half your team to not teamplay. That's why I said get everyone willing. If they don't have mics you'll have to be the spokesperson. What I do is tell them a meeting place and wait to see who shows up. If no one shows up, change to Medic, start healing someone, and tell them what you want them to do. They'll probably listen since they want to keep you. Along the way tell others you see to join up with you. "We're going left side to try to flank them. Demo, spam the Sentry. Soldier, I'm with you. Hold here until we get the Uber. Alright, let's rock them! Everybody follow us in!" This usually has good results, tho not necessarily a win. But yeah, sometimes no one will listen. Or a small group just can't do it. This is particularly notorious on Steel when your team gets E happy and starts ignoring capturing the other points. "Capturing E isn't working. I know the bridges are out now, but if we capture D first it blocks their direct path to E and gives them longer respawn times. Let's meet up at A and capture D first. There's no reason not to." *crickets*
But my main advice is be a Medic. People are more willing to listen to you.
And I wish having Soldier was an assured victory. But I recall a few specific times when the band of willing team players was just me and Soldier (the latest being on Gravelpit, I believe) and there's just no way to capture B when your team isn't backing you up. It didn't matter how many ubers we used or how good Soldier was at Heavy. We can't take out 3 Sentry guns and all their infantry if our team is too busy playing Scout and trying to spawn camp at C.

Originally Posted by Omnibeing

Not to sound contrite or anything but last few times I have come into one of the TTP servers and gotten on the teams being rolled, I attempted to rally up the needed classes, and the plan and attitude to push and win. And when I did I was met with some people, people mind you that I don't see on the server all the time, just telling me sir yes sir in a sarcastic way, people don't change classes when I say hey we could use another medic and not 2 snipers. Its frustrating and it just makes me go back into my little I just gonna be a follower not a leader place again. Which to me is bad because without more leaders to step up, there are going to be more and more times like this when the normal movers and shakers aren't on,

If you feel that people aren't being taemplayers, or are being sarcastic towards you when you're trying to get the team together, call out for an admin. I can guarantee you that TF2 admins LOVE to get some work in keeping the server Sukka Free. I rarely play anymore, and am probably no longer considered a regular, but when I come back and my team isn't working together, I'll be the first one in the mic knocking heads in to work together. Last time i was on, I was in a similar situation as you were, no one was working together, communicating, etc. So I started talking and forming a plan. I had a few guys just say whatever and we'll do what we want, etc. At the time no admin was on...but after getting on STEAM, I was able to get some in the server and they just loved banning those punk asses.

Never be afraid of calling out non-teamplayers. They might give you shit for calling them out, but chances are they won't be around long enough for it to matter.

I've never said team stacking once. If anything I like being on a lesser "skilled" team and if I push your whole defense back on granary while defending B on the roof as soldier it gets my heart pumping like a pre teen boy mistakingly using vasoline to rub one out? "wtf did he just say?"

Originally Posted by Menoske

Originally Posted by Omnibeing

Not to sound contrite or anything but last few times I have come into one of the TTP servers and gotten on the teams being rolled, I attempted to rally up the needed classes, and the plan and attitude to push and win. And when I did I was met with some people, people mind you that I don't see on the server all the time, just telling me sir yes sir in a sarcastic way, people don't change classes when I say hey we could use another medic and not 2 snipers. Its frustrating and it just makes me go back into my little I just gonna be a follower not a leader place again. Which to me is bad because without more leaders to step up, there are going to be more and more times like this when the normal movers and shakers aren't on,

If you feel that people aren't being taemplayers, or are being sarcastic towards you when you're trying to get the team together, call out for an admin. I can guarantee you that TF2 admins LOVE to get some work in keeping the server Sukka Free. I rarely play anymore, and am probably no longer considered a regular, but when I come back and my team isn't working together, I'll be the first one in the mic knocking heads in to work together. Last time i was on, I was in a similar situation as you were, no one was working together, communicating, etc. So I started talking and forming a plan. I had a few guys just say whatever and we'll do what we want, etc. At the time no admin was on...but after getting on STEAM, I was able to get some in the server and they just loved banning those punk asses.

Never be afraid of calling out non-teamplayers. They might give you shit for calling them out, but chances are they won't be around long enough for it to matter.

Oh now that I'm getting to know more of the regs, and such I absolutely plan on it.

Originally Posted by Menoske

I rarely play anymore, and am probably no longer considered a regular

You're still a reg, but a chump reg.