sandman banned from cevo

**Saltspring** · 03-09-09, 08:30 PM

I watched a scout single handedly kill a medic heavy combo, long range ball beans the heavy who sits stunned as teh scout picks his ball back up and shoots the medic then beans the heavy with another ball and beats him to death with the bat. I have to say the ability to eliminate a heavy and a medic without taking any damage does seem a little overpowered.

**Oozish** · 03-10-09, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Saltspring

I watched a scout single handedly kill a medic heavy combo, long range ball beans the heavy who sits stunned as teh scout picks his ball back up and shoots the medic then beans the heavy with another ball and beats him to death with the bat. I have to say the ability to eliminate a heavy and a medic without taking any damage does seem a little overpowered.

ermmm...exactly. How did this get past quality control, come on....

**kyle700** · 03-10-09, 01:33 AM

Well, maybe what makes it over powered is that if the Scout get's a hit, then it's a kill, somehow, 95% of the time. There is NOTHING to do against it. A Sniper watching you? Don't go out. A Scout hit you with a base ball? DEAD!
Eh, they'll nerf it sometime.

**Oozish** · 03-10-09, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Birdinator

Ok so on Fastlane I ran out there ubered and got stunned, and then while I was stunned another scout hit me from across the map and stunned me WHILE I WAS STUNNED and I couldn't move forever and then died

/whine

but seriously, getting stunned while stunned? what the hell is up with that?

hehe, ya, i blew you up...I saw this..you were stunned forever. It's hard not to chuckle when it's not me though. This should be nerfed or taken out totally.

**CheeseLikeSubstance** · 03-10-09, 09:36 AM

I think y'all are fpcusing too much on the power level of the sandman in its current interation, and not enough on the fact that it could be the weakest weapon in the game and it would still be a bad idea. Being stunned is never going to be fun; having a weapon in the game to which there is no response is never going to be tactically interesting, no matter how much they nerf it.

Even the weapons that are closest to having no counter - let's say, sentries, headshots, and backstabs - can be worked around by someone who plays even reasonably well. Getting hit by the Sandman requires luck or the failure of your opponents to survive. In order to make this weapon even slightly fun and interesting, they need to remove the stun effect - they can replace it with sluggish handling, or wonky vision, or anything but something that removes the player from the game. Paralysis but still able to shoot would work, gun failure but still able to move would be fine too. Let the player do something to counter it, and it will be just fine.

**Gonzo0100** · 03-10-09, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by Birdinator

Ok so on Fastlane I ran out there ubered and got stunned, and then while I was stunned another scout hit me from across the map and stunned me WHILE I WAS STUNNED and I couldn't move forever and then died

/whine

but seriously, getting stunned while stunned? what the hell is up with that?

Speaking from personal experience, getting hit in the head with one baseball isn't as bad as the 2nd immediately following it.

How about a hockey puck?

**Option hunter** · 03-10-09, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Gonzo0100

Originally Posted by jabberwock

Originally Posted by Birdinator

Ok so on Fastlane I ran out there ubered and got stunned, and then while I was stunned another scout hit me from across the map and stunned me WHILE I WAS STUNNED and I couldn't move forever and then died

/whine

but seriously, getting stunned while stunned? what the hell is up with that?

Speaking from personal experience, getting hit in the head with one baseball isn't as bad as the 2nd immediately following it.

How about a hockey puck?

Getting hit in the head by a bullet is worse than all those

Just thought i'd point that out