Thread: Wake up Valve and Fix your Medic!

Originally Posted by QuickLightning

While medic is severely underplayed... how often do you see a team with no medics beat a team with 1 or 2?... I'd wager that it is not very common.

Medics are ridiculously powerful, people just don't like to play a support class.

But that's a good thing, there not ridiculously over powerful, any (most) class can make or break at team if used correctly, a sniper can take out there medic, and then almost the whole team, a spy can effectively get behind the defenses and make a team collapse from behind the lines, that is what a support class does, helps the other people get the upper hand. And that is what the medic does, give the team an upper hand. The smart people over at steam headquarters just realized that making a support class that doesn't get to kill things easy to play will make others want to play it. And it is the other teams darn fault if they don't counter it effectively (with a medic or otherwise)....

Originally Posted by Anti-Squeaker

+3

As a medic, I use the Blutsauger and the Ubersaw. Why? Because the original weapons suck. The needle gun was a joke, along with the bonesaw. Which sadly was the best Medic weapon.
Medic's needed these weapons, to get people excited about playing Medic. How many dedicated Medics did we have on TTP before the update? 1, maybe 2 who played it with some skill, and didnt just play it because the team needed one.

How many "professional" Medics are on TTP now? ALOT more. We've got Pizza, Sketch, WaterDumple, PulpySnowboy, AK-99, and me name a few (not trying to inflate my ego, just stating a fact) This update brought something that Medics needed. Excitement. If you would rather take that away Ducky, better start camping those healthpacks or pack a Sandvich, because we might not be here as much to get your back.

If instead of reading my first post and skimming through the rest, you had actually read the thread in its entirety. Then maybe you would have read this.

Originally Posted by LuckyDucky

Again I don't think the Medic is under or overpowered. I think his previous weapons (needlegun/bonesaw) are simply not balanced to the new unlocks (ubersaw/bluat). I admit maybe saying that ubersaw and bluat should be nerfed is drastic for a medic. Perhaps the original weapons can be umped, or something to create a balance where players would say "hey the bonesaw is better for my playing style on this map".

But whatever, considering the medigun is the medics main focus anyway, and Valve did a good job balancing the kritz with the uber...I guess it wouldn't matter anyway.

Consider reading at least past the second post of a thread before you make the assumption that I did not in fact change my opinion when others provided a better alternative.

Originally Posted by Anti-Squeaker

because we might not be here as much to get your back.

Threatening to not heal me ingame is a baseless threat. My most played classes are engi, spy and scout. Which medics never bother healing anyway. And threatening to cripple me ingame because i shared my opinion in the forums (even though that opinion has changed now)...is low. Very very very low of you.

Edit: Now that i think about it you might not have meant that last quote as a threat but more as a spoken result of what would have happen if the Medic was nerfed. If that is so then I apologize for lashing out.

I still think you're lazy for not reading the rest of the thread though.

What you should have written then, perhaps, is that the medic needs a BUFF to his old weapon choices...I think the thread would have developed very differently then.

Stated like this, I could easily get on board...as you're saying the parallel choices for the medic are weak compared to the alt choices of the other classes. yes, I agree.

Originally Posted by Menoske

Originally Posted by Captain Coors

Bring back needlegun boosting for the medic, or give him concussion grenades so he can move around like soldiers and demomen.

Don't forget to give him a hand cannon and a shoulder mounted laser so he's on par with every other offensive class.

No, that's way overpowered....Shoulder mounted laser canons, ah, now we're talkin'

But one thing I don't get is why does the uber charge turn off when you switch to another weapon? I hate it when I have to waste an uber when a sniper head shots my guy seconds before i right click, making my uber go off without saving my guy, and then to make it worse no one else is around and I'm suddenly surrounded! I would like to at least take a few people out while retreating, that would be nice...

Also I think there should be a overflow on the uber, so it can be ready in the same amount of time but extra healing after would actually help and make it last a little longer, not too much longer but like a max of 5 more seconds or somthing? It would help a lot when they have 2 turrets set up and your being juggled at the same time, so you have a larger time to get rid of them.

I think the uber mechanics are fine as-is and don't need to be changed. They can be neutered by a good pyro or even by good sollies or demos using their explosives to make movement difficult. Allowing your uber to continue while using other weapons would make the ubersaw absurdly powerful... uber yourself and go around smacking people to keep yourself invulnerable.

The only thing the medic needs is a compelling reason to actually consider using the needlegun and bonesaw over the two unlocks.