Thread: Demomen annoy me

It really depends on the situation. Like I was playing hoodoo last night and used my stickies as a trap (3-1, hallway to 2nd floor) and my grenades as the spam. In a few situations demos are crazy good. Like when your dancing on a point a demo can hold off plenty of players, or destroy people on it. But out in the open the demo man is very weak to many classes.

Tight corridors are were the demo excels because he can leave traps and its hard to dodge grenades. I think almost anywhere else he will be beaten out by a soldier, scout, pyro.

For me sticky traps are generally useful once and then the other team wises up. The real value in stickies, and the difference between good demos and spammers, is the ability to put them where the opponent is going to be. On a one on one fight with a scout I am unlikely to hit him with a pill grenade. I can however, look at his most likely lines of retreat and sticky those locations. When the scout moves into those spots I kill him. Often I will lay a sticky out and do some light damage, then setup stickies on the ground in the most likely path that opponent will take and get them.

Originally Posted by Oozish

but on CP maps and 6vs6 situations if anything the scout is OP, but certainly not the demo.

I find myself feeling the scout is overpowered more and more. The speed and the excellent weapons more than mitigate the low health.

Originally Posted by Silent_Crow

Dont be predictable. Dont force it. IF you are in a situation where theres 0% chance to push past the doorway (if stickied or something) - dont. Most people who rage about demos arent patient enough to wait for the right opportunity to fight them.

Demos are weak against enemies coming through multiple directions. Spies are also a good counter, cuz the dmeo is often staring at his traps - (just ask ooze!). Obviously scout is the best, as long as the demo is in the open, or you are a good shoot.

Seriously, I cant understand why people toss trash talk towards a demo who is camping a doorway/hallway when they keep running through his traps over and over again.

Originally Posted by tr_enf

First time sticky trapped, shame on thee, second time, shame on me.

All those things, and go play the game and you'll get better.

Originally Posted by tr_enf

Last night we were getting absolutely worked on Steel by RADIO RAHEEEEEM (seeing a lot more of him lately) and Maxwell Murder, both demos with medics on them. They tore our entire team apart on defense and offense no matter what we threw at them. There you just have to give credit where credit is due. But if youre dying/losing to random demo spam, it might be time to change your gameplan. First time sticky trapped, shame on thee, second time, shame on me.

I can second that radio raheem guy, he makes me feel like i'm playing quake 3 again, where if you get shot into the air you're dead essentially.

regardless, demo's have a certain finesse to them but often times noobish demos will just throw down stickies over random paths. counter this by staying out of range. (i've found you can annoy the shit out of them as soldier just by staying back and hitting them with rockets/shotgun. you can at least get them to retreat with this) if he blows the stickies prematurely you can start thinking of other game plans. you can also take calculated risks since once sticky isn't worth TOO much damage if you have a medic with you.

while soldier offer their firepower in short bursts with great accuracy, a demoman must use pills (with a fair amount of skill) in order to achieve this type of frontal firepower. if you are able to hit a demoman when he is not expecting it or when he is not ready, do so. as a tip FOR sticky spamming, do not blow up you stickies immediately unless someone is over them: you can build up a little minefield for scouts or other classes that might be annoying you and then blow them to high hell.

Originally Posted by Oozish

edit #2: Oh ya, and what class do you like playing? I recall you being a SPY? Like that's not annoying haha, joking. (but true).

Judging by yesterday, he's a spy that goes into huge rage fits when we can't push past ~6 soldier/demo/heavy and ~3 medics on badlands while he's busy sapping teleporters

kaboom to you too, whatsurdeal