Demomen annoy me

**jason_jinx** · 10-01-09, 01:07 PM

I am sorry that I annoy you.

**Watsyurdeal?** · 10-01-09, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by jason_jinx

I am sorry that I annoy you.

Oh and on more thing, the match on Badlands last night, I have on a demo. So if you want me to upload it, I will.

**Silent_Crow** · 10-01-09, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Watsyurdeal?

Pursue your objective or die trying

http://www.texasteamplayers.com/index.php?topic=22008.0

That's something we enforce here on ttp. I was sapping Gigs buildings as well killing the him and occasionally killing a soldier or demo. Saying I'm I went into a rage fit makes me sound like I had no reason to be mad when I did. I got rid of most anything that could stop you from capping a point, and you guys barely pushed. I'm sorry but I've seen people pull ubers out easily here on ttp. I expect you or anyone else to do the same, and if you can't, you shouldn't be playing here. Because it's not just me who expects that from you, everyone expects their team to push on cp map, not turtle.

As for the conversation regarding demos, I may give it a try again soon. I just get annoyed when demos use nothing but stickies, just something about gets under my skin. Like pyros who don't use compression blast.

True, but the way TF2 plays, suiciding in isn't always the best option. Its often better to wait for a group of teammates to push with you.

I think you need to re-evaluate your playstyle if a certain class is troubling you. You are playing too predictably and formulaicly against demos. Learn where the usual traps are, recognize when is a good time to engage, take advantage of demos who are out of ammo since they have a ridiculous reload time.

**Silent_Crow** · 10-01-09, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Addrake

Originally Posted by Oozish

but on CP maps and 6vs6 situations if anything the scout is OP, but certainly not the demo.

I find myself feeling the scout is overpowered more and more. The speed and the excellent weapons more than mitigate the low health.

Oh plz. As with wats, you both need to re-evaluate your playstyle.

If scouts are bothering you, then you are getting caught wandering by yourself too often. Get a scout to stick with you, or move with the medic and soldiers.

**Arreo** · 10-01-09, 01:41 PM

Absolutely 100% agree with Joe here. No single class in TF2 is so overpowered as to overwhelm all others. Sure, some are more versatile then others. Sure, some are more overplayed then others. But it largely depends on the skills of the various players. A really skilled scout can dominate classes that scouts should not be able to easily beat. It just depends.

TF2 is in my opinion the most balanced game out there. Every strategy has a counter, every class has a check. Every weapon can be worked around.

And that is why I love it.

**Watsyurdeal?** · 10-01-09, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Silent_Crow

True, but the way TF2 plays, suiciding in isn't always the best option. Its often better to wait for a group of teammates to push with you.

I think you need to re-evaluate your playstyle if a certain class is troubling you. You are playing too predictably and formulaicly against demos. Learn where the usual traps are, recognize when is a good time to engage, take advantage of demos who are out of ammo since they have a ridiculous reload time.

Well usually demos don't cause me trouble as spy, but like engi, and other classes, the can get on my nerves quick. But I think it's cause of the fact they're a hard counter to engineer. And of course they're difficult when I have no idea when there's stickies around a corner.

What's troubling me is people not pushing, that's all. I know it can be rough sometimes pushing forward but....I honestly don't see how difficult it is to take a soldier or two with medics and flank from the lower ground under the bridge. That's just me. I didn't see how good the enemies' offense was, but seeing as how there were at least 3 or more people chasing a dead ringer spy half the time I can't imagine it being too difficult. I'll take a look at the demo I recorded last night to be sure I didn't miss something.

And I agree too Arreo, why do you think I constantly play it?

**Gonzo0100** · 10-01-09, 01:47 PM

agreed. scouts are VERY powerful. Addrake.... your shotgun dodging skills are WEAK!!!! Even as a soldier after 1 or 2 rockets my shotty could pump you. Practice your strafing and maneuvering, it will help.

This may help you with scouts like me, but as we spoke the other day... if soldier plays scout, switch out from demo. lol.

**Oozish** · 10-01-09, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Silent_Crow

Originally Posted by Addrake

Originally Posted by Oozish

but on CP maps and 6vs6 situations if anything the scout is OP, but certainly not the demo.

I find myself feeling the scout is overpowered more and more. The speed and the excellent weapons more than mitigate the low health.

Oh plz. As with wats, you both need to re-evaluate your playstyle.

If scouts are bothering you, then you are getting caught wandering by yourself too often. Get a scout to stick with you, or move with the medic and soldiers.

LOL I don't need to re-evaluate my playing style. Of all the classes I think scout is most overpowered, and I'm sticking to it; especially with the force a nature. I didn't say change them up or nerf them or whatever, but I do think they are the strongest class in general especially with their lame new weapons.

edit: only in the hands of an experienced player though, and I think scout is very difficult to be good at; so I'm not taking anything away from the level of skill required to play a scout which I think it one of the highest required if not the highest.

**Watsyurdeal?** · 10-01-09, 02:14 PM

A vanilla scout with good aim is absolutely lethal. A Fan scout with good aim is just annoying. :P

**Langrad** · 10-01-09, 02:30 PM

Iv found that for a few traps you can rocket jump past them. The demo will expect you to walk into it but if you jump your explosion will knock you just past the range of the stickies alota fun.