This will be the end of TF2 as we know it

**Cheshire Cat** · 06-28-10, 10:55 AM

I prefer my Shotgun, honestly. It's nice to have that extra kill power when you're fighting two people. The Banner is great if you have it and can use it, but I like my shotgun to help finish off scouts and other soldiers.

**shoi** · 06-28-10, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by QuickLightning

I retired my shotgun in favor of the buff banner. That thing is absolutely amazing with a full team.

That is something I really like having on my team but would never use myself

**Zelmon** · 06-28-10, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by shoi

That is something I really like having on my team but would never use myself

Lol, same here. With the buff banner it helps with valves prime directive with TF2, communication!!!! Also, I run with the pain train for the same reason as Wats... and I dont know how many times Ive jumped on the cart and then watch the other people scram when they see a soldier on the cart instead of a scout, ha ha.

**Riot_Starter** · 06-28-10, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Zelmon

I dont know how many times Ive jumped on the cart and then watch the other people scram when they see a soldier on the cart instead of a scout, ha ha.

That used to get me by surprise a lot. It's even worse when it is a demo with stickies on a cap point. I'm a lot more cautious now when approaching a point that "just has a scout on it" because you don't know if you're gonna end up with a facefull of explosions.

**QuickLightning** · 06-28-10, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by shoi

That is something I really like having on my team but would never use myself

It's definitely a disadvantage for the person using it. I have to hold myself back and let my team do a lot of the work while I play somewhat conservatively to build up the rage.

Once you get it going though... you can pretty much expect to wipe out anyone standing in your team's path.

**sleeepy** · 06-28-10, 05:24 PM

A buff banner Soldier is like a Medic: you have to protect them while they get their charge and then reap the rewards once they activate it. I don't think it's too useful on 5cp maps because the action is so back and forth, but on maps that have some stalemate-prone areas (pushing last on Badwater against a team that setup well) it is very valuable.

**Anti-Squeaker** · 06-28-10, 10:05 PM

Buff Banner is meh on CP maps. It's fairly good on CTF, and very nice on payload. I usually use the buff banner if I'm playing solly on payload Defense or CTF. It really helps with pushing a team off the cart/driving into their intel room.