Requesting Admin Clarification on Scripting and Binding

**CheeseLikeSubstance** · 05-22-09, 04:06 PM

As has been discussed a little in the other thread, the most recent update has broken some scripts that are commonly in use. Some admins have weighed in on this, saying that most of the scripts broken by the change are ones that should be a bannable offense.

Furthermore, they have stated that some binds, like binding fire to the mousewheel, are illegal.

I, personally, have never bothered to use scripts, and my key bindings are very close to default - I have, however, been thinking of adding some reload scripts, just to make my life easier, but I wanted to ensure that this was considered legit before I did so.

So I would ask that the admins clarify their position on non-standard scripts and binds. Where is the line drawn between a script that just makes gameplay more intuitive, and one that is exploitative? What key binds should I avoid?

**Vulcan30** · 05-22-09, 04:24 PM

Better to be safe than sorry Cheese. So, smart part on you asking for clarification :9. When it comes to binds and script there is a fine line or grey area with them as some of them make the game more conveniant (like using reload scripts to avoid mashing the "r" button) and some exploit certain features of the game. However, I'm gonna let another admin with more script ling-o answer your question thoroughly.

If I think to hard my brain hurts... Could you clarify that for me?

**Agent** · 05-22-09, 04:29 PM

Just press R dude, scripts are illegal.

**kyle700** · 05-22-09, 04:42 PM

Well, I have some scripts (like my awesome pistol script

) that I would more or less use when I play in pugs. So this just means I have to remove them every time I want to play on TTP, and put them on again when I play in a pug. So it is just a hasstle. Scripts like rocket jumping and stuff like that should be iilegal, but having the rocket's auto reload? That isn't some weird hack.
Just my point of view.

**bust331** · 05-22-09, 04:44 PM

Or....you could press R.

**Agent** · 05-22-09, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by bust331

Or....you could press R.

**DJ Ms. White** · 05-22-09, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by firework700

Well, I have some scripts (like my awesome pistol script

) that I would more or less use when I play in pugs. So this just means I have to remove them every time I want to play on TTP, and put them on again when I play in a pug. So it is just a hasstle. Scripts like rocket jumping and stuff like that should be iilegal, but having the rocket's auto reload? That isn't some weird hack.
Just my point of view.

Someone who is familiar with the subject will be in shortly to clarify as asked for by the OP.

**Gonzo0100** · 05-22-09, 05:00 PM

Post your pistol code and I can find something illegal about it

**9ball** · 05-22-09, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Gonzo0100

Post your pistol code and I can find something illegal about it

Or do you just want his code :P

**Arreo** · 05-22-09, 05:16 PM

Here is the fast and loose definition of what is ok and what isn't:

Originally Posted by Arreo

If the script/bind has to use multiple lines of code and uses 'alias' and 'wait' extensively to accomplish it's goal then it is illegal.

If the script/bind allows you to press one button and accomplish multiple in game actions then it is illegal. NOTE: By in game I mean actions of your character, IE firing, moving, aiming, reloading, etc.

If a script/bind allows you to do something that the game does not otherwise allow you to do (for instance keep the heavy's minigun rotating without holding down a button) then that is illegal. The developers have clearly allowed you to choose a nuber of these things (medigun toggle or hold and sniper rezoom) so making scripts to do other things is verboten.

If a script/bind changes multiple out of game things with a single press then that is legal. By this I mean things like changing the color/size transparency of your cross hairs, changing draw characteristics, changing the HUD and other aesthetic concerns.

If a script/bind allows you to change loadout or class with a single press of a button then that is also legal.

That make things a little clearer?