Thread: Ritz

and of course...I get pm'd.

Originally Posted by SRV

nothing could be farther form the truth

our clan always gives the benefit of the doubt unless there is documentable evidence that proves their guilt...and i am sure there is a similar policy here

there is no such thing as bros before hos at newbieworld

if someone said an admin was abusive in their language, and banned them for anything other than was is posted in the motd (on sorce games)

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

so why would you say that here, and not in your thread?

is this about you and me, or you and TTP?

Originally Posted by SRV

really its you and me...and maybe a few others

ive never had anything against TTP, its a good organization

yall's ban and unan system is much like our own, so i know its fair...

but i think that if admins communicated more of what was happening in the admin forums then it would seem more fair

however, i dont know what happens in the admin forums, or if there is anything that happens there that would be appropriate to share with the public...

so yah....that was my point that i tried to make after this whole thing blew up

i didnt really push this idea forward very hard because i was too busy defending myself against some ridiculous posts

learns of his sustained ban....

Originally Posted by SRV

alright well...im sorry to have had all this happen

but yah....i just want to say that if yall can get offended by what i said...didnt say...and how i sneaked around, yall have some pretty thin skin

its really a shame that this whole situation blew out of control the way it did

im sorry i couldnt let my grievances lie, but i truly believe that i made my position clear, apologized and admitted fault...all in my first thread

TTP is yalls house, and i shouldnt have messed with it....so yah

im not going to continue to explain anything....ive said it over and over...and it wasnt good enough

so thanks for the chance to redeem myself, and i know this isnt really possible to be exact, but i would like to know why all of those admins didnt think i had a case

i argued a case similar to this in one of my political science classes, and the person who spoke their mind (even if he had bad intentions)...after recanting and admitting fault he was forgiven

Originally Posted by SRV

also....please dont say i made this an issue...because i simply did not

i realized it was a mistake after around the 4th reply....and then THANK GOD it was locked

but then it was unlocked....you invited more bashing, which i tried really hard to disarm with logical reasoning....and then later admittance of guilt and apology

i started the thread to be sure, but yall made it an issue

thats my problem with you bigdog...you sensationalize

Texans are not supposed to do that

and it bothers me that you do...this is like high school, and i came to college to get away from high school....lol

anyways....you didnt sustain my ban, everyone else did...so apparently what i did really was THAT bad....

once again, im sorry for what i did....and im going to continue to apologize until i get some recognition as to what im saying...lol

Essentially, I've colored in green what you should be saying, and in red what you need to shut up with.

Your response to all of this is still mired in lack of responsibility, and 100% inapologetic. You try, but then fail...you get close...but then throw in the "but".

The admin forums are for admins. Period. If we wanted the public to know waht happens in the admin forums, then why have admins? We disclose what is needed to disclose to those affected by admin decisions. Everything else is either wasting the publics time, or is none of thier concern. Evidence we have, screenshots, who gave them, when, where, how, why....that is admin business. And we protect that discretion so we can maintain order. Otherwise, we have clan leaders afraid to speak out against bad seeds in their clans....long serving admins that are afraid to speak out agianst admins of other games that are OUT OF LINE in new games. This kind of shit happens. And we survive because we evolved the system to be able to deal with these things.

If newbieworld ever becomes something even 1/5th the size of TTP, even in just one game.....you'll either realize the same thing, or newbie world will die.

I would have been highly likley that, when you returned in 30 days to eb unbanned, that you would be, if you only had said "I made a mistake, I misjudged, I apologize, see you in 30 days". You said all those things....but couldn't stop blabbering about all the political and mental justifications of your FALSE and MISJUDGED position (by your own admission).

My guess is....when it is put before the 2142 admins to vote again.....you've made enough of a mark for yourself that it will be impossible to erase the stains, even in 60 days.

If you pm me again, you will be site banned a little more "effectively" than last time. You are also marked for ban on all our games, which we track by name, but also IP, steamID, etc....things we already have of you.

You are defeated. You have admitted it. This is finished. True debate in a political science class would teach you that. So will getting a real job, and getting out of college, since a majority of the admins, especially in 2142, are well, well past that stage of their life.

and yet another pm....

I didn't bother reading it. Someone tell me if it's anything new, or even worth my time.

Originally Posted by SRV

i still dont get the majority of the admins here...

i really want to know where you find them.....

your organization could ONLY function on the internet....but hey, thats why its there right?

if TTP had an office somewhere and it functioned the way it does online, it would be constantly, picketed, threatened, sued, bombed, and god knows what else

the fact that you can completely stop access from undesirables makes TTP function

in real life, the rights of the minority are held dear, and free speech is above even that

the fact that both of these inalienable rights are routinely sacrificed for the "good of TTP" shows the immaturity of its members

all i have to say is...good luck in real life

i hope the majority of people here use TTP to vent, because if they act that way to people face to face, they will make a lot of enemies

i really wish you would respond....i like dialog....and i really would like for you to not post this anywhere else

just a conversation....a private conversation....thats all i want

oh yeah....i cant believe you are from houston...because this whole site is based on some very "unsouthern" values

picketed.....that would be interesting. Considering our rules and demands on our player population, i would EXPECT to be picketed. If there weren't more gamers on the outside crying about it, than true deal teamplayers on the inside, then we wouldn't be a higher caliber society of gamers. We wouldn't be practicing what we preach inside the walls.

and like I said....

If you pm me again, you will be site banned a little more "effectively" than last time

click, click, click.