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    Banned - Bacon Lettuce Bauer

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    I was playing on the CSS server at approximately 13:30 EST with the name "Bacon Lettuce Bauer", whereupon I observed an admin question via (admin) chat why the player emblem's screen was tilted when observed through spectator view. Several people mentioned that it was a glitch, and for anybody that plays CSS regularly, you will know that it is a rather common glitch. I questioned how an admin can become an admin if they do not play enough to be familiar with that glitch. In hindsight, I recognize that admins are chosen and sustained based upon their administration abilities and maturity level, not their playtime. The admin responded with "Bacon, thank you, but iam well aware of what iam doing...if you got a problem, i will show you the door...". I had been expressing my curiosity as to why the admin was unaware of the aforementioned glitch, but with this statement, I saw that the admin was indeed aware of the glitch, and I must have simply misunderstood the original question they had posed. As I felt I had neither "blatantly challenged authority" nor intentionally given any offense, thus breaking none of TTP's rules, I responded with "Feel free admin, I'm well aware of my rights here and how everything at TTP works." By this, I was referring to the rules that I assumed they had felt I had broken, but I felt I had not. Upon rereading this text, I see that "Feel free admin" comes across as far more hostile than it was intended. By it, I only meant that it was up to the admin, being the arbiter of the situation, to decide whether or not my actions warranted any response. Being a former BF2 admin, I am well aware that the admins have the final say in any situation, and it is up to them to handle a situation quickly, and/or to push it to the forums where it does not disrupt play. (I assume) the admin felt that this situation would be better dealt with out of game, and, justifiably so, told me to "take it to the forums...", whereupon I was kicked and banned, so that the issue could be resolved peacefully here.

    #1. Why do you think you got banned?

    I believe that the admin felt I had violated rule #4, "Blatantly challenge the authority of the admin.", and felt that the issue was better resolved on the forums and not in-game.

    #2. What server were you on? What admin do you believe banned you? What admins were there playing?

    I was playing on the Texas ...Teamplayer... CSS server. Admin identities are kept confidential, so I will not say who I believe it was, nor do I feel that I can.

    #3. Why should you be unbanned?

    I play on the server regularly, and play as a team player. I do not feel that rule #4 was violated, however I do feel that the admin was well within his rights to prefer to handle the situation here on the forums, as opposed to in-game.

    #4. A written statement that you will refrain from doing anything that will get you banned again.

    I, Lemures/Bacon, will refrain from doing anything that will get me banned again.

    Player Name: "Bacon Lettuce Bauer" STEAM_0:1:4566947

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    Re: Banned - Bacon Lettuce Bauer

    Hello Bacon...

    First off let me tell you thanks for the great post, and I hope more people post like you.


    I was your Banning admin. The conversation between me and you went as follows....

    (ADMIN) emblem....whats the deal?
    emblem : ?
    (ADMIN) with yoru screen
    emblem : what you mean?
    *DEAD* emblem : what's wrong with ym screen?
    (ADMIN) its tilted...
    Bacon Lettuce Bauer : Admin, you should know that thats a glitch...
    Bacon Lettuce Bauer : how do admins get to be admins if they dont play enough to know that...
    (ADMIN) Bacon, thank you, but iam well aware of what iam doing...if you got a problem, i will show you the door...
    Bacon Lettuce Bauer : Feel free admin, I'm well aware of my rights here and how everything at TTP works.
    (ADMIN) take it to the forums...
    (ADMIN) banned player Bacon Lettuce Bauer

    The fact that it is a glitch is irrelavent in this situation. I was aware that 99 percent of the time, it is a glitch, and his score didnt warrent an obvious hack. By me questioning him, it soothed the other players who were asking me about the tilted screen. I was showing them through god chat that the admin was aware of the situation, and everyone could be calm knowing so.

    Where your mistake was is that you jumped into the conversation like it was your business. As a reg, and appearantly an ex admin of the BF2 side of TTP, you should be well aware that admins (for the most part) have a rhyme and reason for the things they say and do. In which this case i did.

    You were, in my opinion, in violation of rule #4 when you did "challenge my authority" by back talking to me after i calmy told you to keep out of this conversation, or i would ban you. A simple sorry, or nothing else would have been sufficient, but instead you felt like you needed to have the last word. And that is when i banned you.

    This ban was only a temp ban, and you should be good to go in an hour. Although keep in mind, that if another admin who doesnt really have the heart i do, would of been in this situation, it would of been a permanent ban.

    Just next time, keep in mind that we know what we are doing, and try to stay out of our way of handleing things.



    Thank you

    Kraker

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    Re: Banned - Bacon Lettuce Bauer

    Thank you for the fast reply. You are correct, I should have simply shut up, and I let my emotions get the best of me at the time. I look forward to fighting with you again soon. (As in, while playing CSS, not as an admin dispute =P)

    I am able to play on the CSS server. Situation resolved.

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    Re: Banned - Bacon Lettuce Bauer

    pretty piss poor attitude to see in-game, especially coming from a regular and forum member like you.

    quite disappointing, lemures. you were in the wrong, and you got legitimately banned. Don't let it happen again.

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    If turd fergusons want to troll their lives away, that's the world's problem. Go read the CNN.com comments section, or any comments section, anywhere. All of the big threads are going to be the crazy people saying stupid shit.

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