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    banned?

    1. No idea why I was banned.

    2. Wasn't banned while playing, I tried to connect 820pm cst and was banned on all servers.

    3. Should be unbanned because I do not cheat or anything.

    4. Will refrain from doing anything to be banned.

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    [quote author=...bigdog... link=topic=81507.msg1197022#msg1197022 date=1268327193]
    so tragic....

    digital......buy BC2, and stop playing WoW.
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    Alpine,

    You were added to the banned list for reasons unbecoming of a longtime regular and former admin. You were put on a watch list by our current admins after we got reports of you constantly going easy side, awping while winning, autoing while winning, disconnecting after votes go up, etc. You have been doing this for months and today was the final straw for me.

    On dust 2 we were losing as CTs and when team change happened, you purposely went T at the last second to get autoed back to CT. And I also remember you typing something along the lines of, "wanna see something funny?" I didn't find you going back to ct funny at all. This is absolutely 100% unacceptable by my standards and is the main reason you were banned. Do not even try to dispute what you did....it was clearly obvious to me and several other admins on at the time. And to think that we have new regulars witnessing this kind of behavior from someone that has been here since almost the beginning.

    So is this a bannable offense? To some regulars, a warning would have sufficed. What is different about your case is that multiple admins have informed me that you purposely want to ride a fine line with our CS admins just to make our jobs more difficult. Again, this is quite evident because after you were released as a CS admin, your play style changed and your actions were indicative of the exact type of player that we do not want in our community. The exact kind of player that bigdog and sjt started this community to get rid of-the player who is selfish, wants to awp/auto 24/7, stack easy side and purposely annoy admins. Whats worse is that you do it consciously! You didn't think it would catch up to you?

    I really think you forgot how much of a privilege and an honor it is to play at TTP. Denying that you have done any of this will only make things worse because all the admins and most of the regulars know exactly what kind of player you have changed into and what you have been doing for months. So the question is, do you want to change your ways? Or do you lose TTP...potentially forever.

    I will wait for you to respond in order to get your side of the story before we move it to a vote.

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    Re: banned?

    I will try to address the points you have made.

    1.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz
    Alpine,

    You were added to the banned list for reasons unbecoming of a longtime regular and former admin. You were put on a watch list by our current admins after we got reports of you constantly going easy side, awping while winning, autoing while winning, disconnecting after votes go up
    I do not go the "easy" side all the time. However everyone has their opinions but I bet my stats are about 75% CT and 25 T. I ask is the easy side CT on italy and office?

    I also do not awp on the winning team. Unless the opposite team buys it and I pick it up. I don't know about disconnecting after a vote, but my lifestyle forces me to... have a flexible schedule.

    2.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    On dust 2 we were losing as CTs and when team change happened, you purposely went T at the last second to get autoed back to CT. And I also remember you typing something along the lines of, "wanna see something funny?" I didn't find you going back to ct funny at all. This is absolutely 100% unacceptable by my standards and is the main reason you were banned. Do not even try to dispute what you did....it was clearly obvious to me and several other admins on at the time. And to think that we have new regulars witnessing this kind of behavior from someone that has been here since almost the beginning.
    You're correct. I did change team, but as i recall it was still 10v10 meaning I evened it because they had 9. I thought it was funny because when I got on the other side everyone was like "whoa howd u get over here hahah". If you thought it was not funny, I'm sorry but it is a game and supposed to be a good time.


    3.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    So is this a bannable offense? To some regulars, a warning would have sufficed. What is different about your case is that multiple admins have informed me that you purposely want to ride a fine line with our CS admins just to make our jobs more difficult. Again, this is quite evident because after you were released as a CS admin, your play style changed and your actions were indicative of the exact type of player that we do not want in our community. The exact kind of player that bigdog and sjt started this community to get rid of-the player who is selfish, wants to awp/auto 24/7, stack easy side and purposely annoy admins. Whats worse is that you do it consciously! You didn't think it would catch up to you?
    I can't help my play style. I did my best to be a good admin and thought I did a fine job of running the servers. I make calls, I lead rushes, I go on suicide missions for my team for a fake. I think constantly about how I could awp in certain situations, but refrain. Is having to put up with players asking for awp votes annoying you because me? Or because they ask for an awp vote. I have said before to limit it to one per team or ban all together to avoid a problem.

    I'm sorry I could not be stricter admin, but I kept the server running. Running without asshats and without banning people excessively, and using a bunch of god chat. Players were happy, admin was happy. Server was happy.


    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    I really think you forgot how much of a privilege and an honor it is to play at TTP. Denying that you have done any of this will only make things worse because all the admins and most of the regulars know exactly what kind of player you have changed into and what you have been doing for months. So the question is, do you want to change your ways? Or do you lose TTP...potentially forever.

    I will wait for you to respond in order to get your side of the story before we move it to a vote.

    I donated money, I prime servers, I report cheaters/asshats with ma_chat. I love playing on ttp, and I love being competitive. Even on the servers. I want to win.

    I guess I have felt stabbed in the back. Considering I have met basically everyone in person, and I'm on a watch list..At the time I was let go, I thought I was one of the most knowledgeable admins with longtime experience of mani and how the servers were supposed to be ran. I have gone to meet ups. Bought people dranks, played pool, shared good times on the servers. I know I can be a dick in game, but thats the competitive nature of how I play. In real life I am the chillest guy you've met.


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    [quote author=...bigdog... link=topic=81507.msg1197022#msg1197022 date=1268327193]
    so tragic....

    digital......buy BC2, and stop playing WoW.
    [/quote]

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    Re: banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALPINESTAR
    I will try to address the points you have made.

    1.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz
    Alpine,

    You were added to the banned list for reasons unbecoming of a longtime regular and former admin. You were put on a watch list by our current admins after we got reports of you constantly going easy side, awping while winning, autoing while winning, disconnecting after votes go up
    I do not go the "easy" side all the time. However everyone has their opinions but I bet my stats are about 75% CT and 25 T. I ask is the easy side CT on italy and office?

    I also do not awp on the winning team. Unless the opposite team buys it and I pick it up. I don't know about disconnecting after a vote, but my lifestyle forces me to... have a flexible schedule.

    2.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    On dust 2 we were losing as CTs and when team change happened, you purposely went T at the last second to get autoed back to CT. And I also remember you typing something along the lines of, "wanna see something funny?" I didn't find you going back to ct funny at all. This is absolutely 100% unacceptable by my standards and is the main reason you were banned. Do not even try to dispute what you did....it was clearly obvious to me and several other admins on at the time. And to think that we have new regulars witnessing this kind of behavior from someone that has been here since almost the beginning.
    You're correct. I did change team, but as i recall it was still 10v10 meaning I evened it because they had 9. I thought it was funny because when I got on the other side everyone was like "whoa howd u get over here hahah". If you thought it was not funny, I'm sorry but it is a game and supposed to be a good time.


    3.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    So is this a bannable offense? To some regulars, a warning would have sufficed. What is different about your case is that multiple admins have informed me that you purposely want to ride a fine line with our CS admins just to make our jobs more difficult. Again, this is quite evident because after you were released as a CS admin, your play style changed and your actions were indicative of the exact type of player that we do not want in our community. The exact kind of player that bigdog and sjt started this community to get rid of-the player who is selfish, wants to awp/auto 24/7, stack easy side and purposely annoy admins. Whats worse is that you do it consciously! You didn't think it would catch up to you?
    I can't help my play style. I did my best to be a good admin and thought I did a fine job of running the servers. I make calls, I lead rushes, I go on suicide missions for my team for a fake. I think constantly about how I could awp in certain situations, but refrain. Is having to put up with players asking for awp votes annoying you because me? Or because they ask for an awp vote. I have said before to limit it to one per team or ban all together to avoid a problem.

    I'm sorry I could not be stricter admin, but I kept the server running. Running without asshats and without banning people excessively, and using a bunch of god chat. Players were happy, admin was happy. Server was happy.


    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    I really think you forgot how much of a privilege and an honor it is to play at TTP. Denying that you have done any of this will only make things worse because all the admins and most of the regulars know exactly what kind of player you have changed into and what you have been doing for months. So the question is, do you want to change your ways? Or do you lose TTP...potentially forever.

    I will wait for you to respond in order to get your side of the story before we move it to a vote.

    I donated money, I prime servers, I report cheaters/asshats with ma_chat. I love playing on ttp, and I love being competitive. Even on the servers. I want to win.

    I guess I have felt stabbed in the back. Considering I have met basically everyone in person, and I'm on a watch list..At the time I was let go, I thought I was one of the most knowledgeable admins with longtime experience of mani and how the servers were supposed to be ran. I have gone to meet ups. Bought people dranks, played pool, shared good times on the servers. I know I can be a dick in game, but thats the competitive nature of how I play. In real life I am the chillest guy you've met.


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    I will start your vote, but I just want to throw some small points out there:

    1.You go CT 75% of the time, yes. You have a total of 9 days play time and only 7 hours are on Italy and Office. So yes, you do go easy side most of the time. I have witnessed it and your stats back it up. Your top 6 maps are d2, pira, inferno, nuke, mill and aztec.
    ...even though I consider pira a pretty well balanced map.

    2.The server was full 21/22 and even if it was not, your intentions were to remain on the CT side and that is quite obvious.

    3. I rarely hear you over the mic trying to rally the team. I never see you join the losing team. I rarely see you join an objective side unless its office. Maybe its only when I am on, but these are facts I have observed over the last few months.

    4. We have had numerous people help TTP from high admins to our most trusted regulars that eventually hurt ttp in the end. They donated, put their blood and guts into it only to stab US in the back. Well you know what? I feel stabbed in the back that you conduct yourself in a less than reasonable manner in the servers. I have been TOLD by numerous people close to you that you do want to act out of line on purpose to get under the CS admin's skin and your actions justify their claims.

    I have met you in person alpine, and I like you. But you claiming that you do not awp/auto while winning or purposely going CT (even on team switches like today) is preposterous. I am starting to think maybe you just do it in front of me? Well, the beauty of TTP is that this will go to a vote and we will see if the CS admin's observations are in line with my accounts, or yours.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz
    Quote Originally Posted by ALPINESTAR
    I will try to address the points you have made.

    1.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz
    Alpine,

    You were added to the banned list for reasons unbecoming of a longtime regular and former admin. You were put on a watch list by our current admins after we got reports of you constantly going easy side, awping while winning, autoing while winning, disconnecting after votes go up
    I do not go the "easy" side all the time. However everyone has their opinions but I bet my stats are about 75% CT and 25 T. I ask is the easy side CT on italy and office?

    I also do not awp on the winning team. Unless the opposite team buys it and I pick it up. I don't know about disconnecting after a vote, but my lifestyle forces me to... have a flexible schedule.

    2.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    On dust 2 we were losing as CTs and when team change happened, you purposely went T at the last second to get autoed back to CT. And I also remember you typing something along the lines of, "wanna see something funny?" I didn't find you going back to ct funny at all. This is absolutely 100% unacceptable by my standards and is the main reason you were banned. Do not even try to dispute what you did....it was clearly obvious to me and several other admins on at the time. And to think that we have new regulars witnessing this kind of behavior from someone that has been here since almost the beginning.
    You're correct. I did change team, but as i recall it was still 10v10 meaning I evened it because they had 9. I thought it was funny because when I got on the other side everyone was like "whoa howd u get over here hahah". If you thought it was not funny, I'm sorry but it is a game and supposed to be a good time.


    3.
    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    So is this a bannable offense? To some regulars, a warning would have sufficed. What is different about your case is that multiple admins have informed me that you purposely want to ride a fine line with our CS admins just to make our jobs more difficult. Again, this is quite evident because after you were released as a CS admin, your play style changed and your actions were indicative of the exact type of player that we do not want in our community. The exact kind of player that bigdog and sjt started this community to get rid of-the player who is selfish, wants to awp/auto 24/7, stack easy side and purposely annoy admins. Whats worse is that you do it consciously! You didn't think it would catch up to you?
    I can't help my play style. I did my best to be a good admin and thought I did a fine job of running the servers. I make calls, I lead rushes, I go on suicide missions for my team for a fake. I think constantly about how I could awp in certain situations, but refrain. Is having to put up with players asking for awp votes annoying you because me? Or because they ask for an awp vote. I have said before to limit it to one per team or ban all together to avoid a problem.

    I'm sorry I could not be stricter admin, but I kept the server running. Running without asshats and without banning people excessively, and using a bunch of god chat. Players were happy, admin was happy. Server was happy.


    Quote Originally Posted by vafaskillz

    I really think you forgot how much of a privilege and an honor it is to play at TTP. Denying that you have done any of this will only make things worse because all the admins and most of the regulars know exactly what kind of player you have changed into and what you have been doing for months. So the question is, do you want to change your ways? Or do you lose TTP...potentially forever.

    I will wait for you to respond in order to get your side of the story before we move it to a vote.

    I donated money, I prime servers, I report cheaters/asshats with ma_chat. I love playing on ttp, and I love being competitive. Even on the servers. I want to win.

    I guess I have felt stabbed in the back. Considering I have met basically everyone in person, and I'm on a watch list..At the time I was let go, I thought I was one of the most knowledgeable admins with longtime experience of mani and how the servers were supposed to be ran. I have gone to meet ups. Bought people dranks, played pool, shared good times on the servers. I know I can be a dick in game, but thats the competitive nature of how I play. In real life I am the chillest guy you've met.


    alp STEAM_0:0:10493522

    I will start your vote, but I just want to throw some small points out there:

    1.You go CT 75% of the time, yes. You have a total of 9 days play time and only 7 hours are on Italy and Office. So yes, you do go easy side most of the time. I have witnessed it and your stats back it up. Your top 6 maps are d2, pira, inferno, nuke, mill and aztec.
    ...even though I consider pira a pretty well balanced map.

    2.The server was full 21/22 and even if it was not, your intentions were to remain on the CT side and that is quite obvious.

    3. I rarely hear you over the mic trying to rally the team. I never see you join the losing team. I rarely see you join an objective side unless its office. Maybe its only when I am on, but these are facts I have observed over the last few months.

    4. We have had numerous people help TTP from high admins to our most trusted regulars that eventually hurt ttp in the end. They donated, put their blood and guts into it only to stab US in the back. Well you know what? I feel stabbed in the back that you conduct yourself in a less than reasonable manner in the servers. I have been TOLD by numerous people close to you that you do want to act out of line on purpose to get under the CS admin's skin and your actions justify their claims.

    I have met you in person alpine, and I like you. But you claiming that you do not awp/auto while winning or purposely going CT (even on team switches like today) is preposterous. I am starting to think maybe you just do it in front of me? Well, the beauty of TTP is that this will go to a vote and we will see if the CS admin's observations are in line with my accounts, or yours.

    Good luck.
    1. So I like the M4 a lil too much for my own good. If you want to get completely honest, I join whatever server your on, and also the opposite team of you. If your on CT, I will go T. If your T like usual that puts me on CT as usual. Face it, otherwise it would stack the teams. I enjoy killing you. Even when we were friends.

    2. Yes like I said I moved to even it, and get off your team to make it more interesting. Also as I stated it was humorous to me because people were wondering "hey howd he end up here", and whatnot.

    3. That is ridiculous. I use my mic more than most people on the server.

    4. I don't even want to address the accusations that I have been anything less than 100% ttp.

    Don't believe me that I don't awp 24/7? my hlx stats says I have twice the kills of an awp with the m4 on all servers.

    I feel this thread is only really able to be understood by me, you, and the admins that actually know me or have been around the block once or twice. I feel now that I should have PM'ed all this instead of people looking in totally lost on the background story.
    [quote author=...bigdog... link=topic=81507.msg1197022#msg1197022 date=1268327193]
    so tragic....

    digital......buy BC2, and stop playing WoW.
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    Feel free alpine, because my frustrations with you are a culmination of admins and regulars complaining to me about you. Its not just about me vs you....I love our rivalry. But this drama and nonsense needs to be figured out and stopped which is why we are in the banned forums.


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    The CS admins overwhelmingly felt that you need 30 days to put your love and respect for TTP to the test. It seems that you go between the "I don't give a crap Alpine" and the "old school TTP alpine," depending on which admins are playing. We all want the old school alpine back, especially me, because we had great times since the beginning and I do not want that to end. I know a lot has happened over the last year making you feel sour, but that is no excuse to push buttons of certain admins because it will eventually get you in these situations. Come back as the old alpine in 30 days and lets put this behind us and start with a clean slate.

    I look forward to seeing what TTP really means to you.

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