Thread: Championship Finals: fragpants vs. K Money Krew!

you are correct xificul, vent was not required. It was noted in the rule that it and other communication applications were allowed. Some people preferred certain ones because of the time delay they experience between what is said and what is heard. A simple solution is just to use in-game voice.

Originally Posted by Kaido

I mean if we really want to talk about legit and fair matches, we may as well go further back and have a LEGIT upper bracket finals match 5v5 with starters. That match itself could have just been a easy FFL for us but I decided to just go ahead and play it 4v5 since we were there, and since a reschedule was not thrown out there/offered.

If every match had to be played with starters there wouldn't be 8 people on the roster. Granted, it is ideal for them to play in every match, but that's not always the case. Our 5th never played a single game or even practiced with us at all. Our 4th played in 1 maybe 2 matches. So we basically had 3 starters for the majority of our matches, but that's fine because the 'backups' are on our roster and part of the team.

There were several teams who had first/second/third round draft picks be busts, that's part of the draft. Dmaster, the overall pick couldn't make the first match. Petrichor, the second overall pick left the country... shit happens.

No one ever said your 4v5 match you keep mentioning was fair. You had a choice to forfeit or play, and I respect your choice to play. The difference is, we had a set time and date that everyone flexed schedules to make, and your 5th was a no show. Much like the projected championship night, however the time was questionable. We projected 7pm, you countered with 7-9pm. So we waited 2 hours in the server, and only 3 from your team show up. So when 9 rolled around, I could have easily forfeited the entire championship due to your consecutive no-shows. However, we agreed to wait for another hour to see if you would have 5 to play map 2, and you did, you won, congrats. So by 11(a time never even mentioned) we were unable to field 5, or even 4 for that matter. So why I even thought about taking a forfeit was beyond me. And you guys still complained. Wah.

So here is what I'm going to do, because I'm 'shady' and 'do everything to favor my team'(according to players on your team) is force a legit match(so unfair!), or we both take second place, and there is no winner. So get your team together(or not), starters(or not), pick which side you want to play first on contra, pick a time/date(or not), and have a good old fashion shoot out(or not) I'm mean and unfair, I know. The ball is in your court.

-Dunn

Backups are apart of the team yes, that is why we used them in our matches as well. The 4v5 match, I think your forgetting that I actually made it FAIR for your team to begin with because we could have played during the week and forced default day/time, but because Luker can not play on weekdays we pushed the match back an extra week for you, and then yes on that weekend we agreed to play on for Luker, naeroK had something more important he had to do with his fiance and had to back out, one of our backups said he'd show up but then match day that never happened. Projected time for the bo3 was 7-9 like I said, latest time for map 1 start was 9 and that map would not have ended until at least 9:40 at best, so a start time of 10 or around there for map 2 makes sense, with map 3 around 11 or right before if it came to that. I don't know how you would FF the entire championship based off a map 1 FFL unless you just made a tournament admin decision on your own. 11pm was not mentioned because it didn't need to be, if 9pm was a start time for a bo3, then it's pretty obvious the game would probably go on pretty late.

As for the last part of your post, I honestly don't know why you are saying some of those things in a conversation between you, luker, and myself. Most of what you are refering to was in a convo between a certain member and yourself, not me. Sure I said the upper bracket final wasn't legit, but that's because you and your team complained that the championship wasn't legit.

So at first it wasn't a big deal and it was my call, now you are forcing a rematch. Throughout the tournament, I have gotten my team together as best as I could and am pretty sure I scheduled all but our last 2 matches (UB finals and championship) as fast as possible before the default time. Not only that but in all but the last 2 matches, we have shown up as a team on time and pretty much always had to wait for opponents to get five, or for media to get setup. With tournament going on and on, and these being drafted teams and not real teams who have to commit to a match, shit happens and people go away for a weekend or two, go out on the weekend, have class and so many other things more important than playing with 4 other random people.

Anyways, you can take 1st if you want to make that decision, your running the tournament. You can call it a tie if you want, it's your show. Either way I'm content with the way my team played for not practicing and just pugging it, and am over the fact that some people who told me they would show up for a match didn't, shit happens, that's life. Tournament was fun while it lasted, thanks for putting it together, look forward to the next one.

Originally Posted by Kaido

Vent/mumble/TS was not required, however communicating through those programs instead of using in game mics is much better. There is little delay in comms meaning when you die you can get information to your team faster, or more importantly when you are alive and you spot a rush on nuke outside to mini, you can save your upper teammates from a delayed reaction resulting in a death. Also the overall quality of voices is a lot better to hear and understand.

This tourney I thought was about having fun. I didnt have any fun trying to get vent to work with you. I didnt have any fun arguing with you about vent. I also didnt even play so that was not fun.We could have used in game but you wanted vent thats on you. To be honest I would have had alot better time being on any other team besides your team, but hey it was a draft and you drafted me so I went with it.

We aren't taking 1st, we didn't win. If we can't have a 5v5 championship match, then it will result in a tie. I know you did everything in your power to get your team together and whatever happened was out of your control. All drama and bullshit aside, all I want is a 5v5 championship match, and if that can't happen then it is what it is. I'm sorry if that's being unfair.

I appreciate everyone for participating, I'm sorry it ended in the fashion that it did, it's hard to please everyone. Next tournament will be much more strict on scheduling, thus alleviating a lot of the altercations. My apologies.

-Dunn