BF4 Beta: We're Live!

**Tactical Tortoise** · 10-04-13, 12:59 PM

That said Id' love to get in TS with a few people and play a few rounds as a decent squad focused on the same thing.
I'd probably liek the game more if it wasn't full so so many random solo/rambo type people

**WileECyte** · 10-04-13, 01:03 PM

You don't need to be in TS to communicate with your squad... the built-in VOIP works just fine. I've played many rounds with TPG regulars and it's worked flawlessly for me.

**Merritt** · 10-04-13, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Tactical Turtle

That said Id' love to get in TS with a few people and play a few rounds as a decent squad focused on the same thing.
I'd probably liek the game more if it wasn't full so so many random solo/rambo type people

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**SourceSkills** · 10-04-13, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Tactical Turtle

Nononono Arma is a long ways off of Battlfield for sure, and not meant for a proper comparison game play wise.
im just complaining that I would rather see the Battlefield series move towards the Arma end or the spectrum than the COD side.

Battlefield 2 and even when BF3 fist launched maps were big and things moved a little slower and with more purpose. this made things feel like they had meaning when you accomplished or took an objective. i haven't played BF3 as its evolved over its expansions but to play BF4 now it feels far to fast paced. BF4 seems focused more on big explosions and and fancy buildings falling apart than it is on any kind of tactical gameplay.

Its like they want you to constantly be moving and in the action so you don't have time to stop and realize how crappy the game actually looks. aside from the buildings falling apart and some fancy effects it doesn't look that impressive.
staying alive is not a priority as long as your squad or group is still able to move forward.
they don't want you to have time to stop and realize that its just 64 random people in a big COD teamdeathmatch where you can choose where to spawn.
with rocket propelled bullets in every gun complete with smoke trail, and tank shells that aside from making a loud sound feel more like throwing large Dust covered rocks everything is full of over the top flashy effects.

what ive played of BF4 ive enjoyed. but it isnt anything special.
I get frustrate and annoyed with the random enemies spawning in and multiplying 4 feet in front of me.
maybe I'm Just getting too old for these newfangled high budget low quality FPS games.

I am going to have to disagree with there. Everything feels way slower than BF3. Much more tactical game play is being carried out thanks to in game voip. I don't feel COD at all to be honest and this is coming from a guy that played COD for many many years and I don't like to toot my own horn but was quite good at it. One reason you may think there is a lack of tactical game play is because of the lack of commander in the beta which was unfortunate but I have no doubt your opinion would change if that were in the game. Also the standard tank shells used in this game are sabot rounds not HE so logically the fact that they do not have a large damage radius is acceptable.

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**WileECyte** · 10-04-13, 01:07 PM

Just spent 20 minutes or so messing around with spectator mode. Wow. VERY impressive. There's a 'tabletop' mode that I'd assume is similar to what the commander sees. Icons for all the players on the map. You can see first or third person view of any player alive in the game. You can also free-cam from any of several fixed cameras around the map. You're not actually seeing the players' screen, just the game interpreting their movement data their game sends up to the server, so you wouldn't see any real physical indicators of them running hacks.

The fact that you can't be in game and spectate at the same time makes it less likely to be used for ghosting, unless you had 2 gaming rigs side-by-side and 2 separate BF4 accounts...

**Warprosper** · 10-04-13, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by WileECyte

Just spent 20 minutes or so messing around with spectator mode. Wow. VERY impressive. There's a 'tabletop' mode that I'd assume is similar to what the commander sees. Icons for all the players on the map. You can see first or third person view of any player alive in the game. You can also free-cam from any of several fixed cameras around the map. You're not actually seeing the players' screen, just the game interpreting their movement data their game sends up to the server, so you wouldn't see any real physical indicators of them running hacks.

The fact that you can't be in game and spectate at the same time makes it less likely to be used for ghosting, unless you had 2 gaming rigs side-by-side and 2 separate BF4 accounts...

I envision some great match coverage with this ... I too played around with it... It's amazing..