Thread: Team Scramble Plugin

Originally Posted by WileECyte

Personally, If I can't play with the people I want to play with... I'll just go elsewhere.

And this adds members to the community how?

I don't see a problem with losing your squad. I was fine with it in Bf2, and I'm fine with it now..

Originally Posted by Warprosper

And this adds members to the community how?

We haven't been adding any membership to this community for ages, regardless of how things are run on the servers. In fact, the way servers have been run has driven off more people than it's brought in...

Originally Posted by Phyrelight

we should adjust the level for the complete scramble to at least 300 tickets if not 400. I think the settings got messed up when we switched to vanilla but it does need to be there to prevent multi turn rollovers

Converting the server should not have jacked with the plugin settings. The plugin settings are completely independent of the server settings.

funny part is some of the best games I have had since we implemented this in January is getting rolled one round then the server completely gets scrambled and everyone ends up in new squads. Some people move around but about 60 seconds in everyone is settled into the new sides. I typically stay where I get put and try to get to know the new players. Some are dead weight and I end up with a headache. Others however are actually on voip saying how they got rolled or did the rolling the previous round and they talk about strategies they used and they actually start communicating.....next thing you know I drop the "hey squad lead I think we got trounced last round due to lack of objective and direction, where do you want us to go?" That is normally followed by a silence until someone realizes they are the squad lead and they ask how to set an order. From there, its all gravy. We have gotten rolled 1 game, scrambled and had a following match within 50 tickets. One epic match came down to 3 ticket difference in the end. We all take the initiative to teach those that haven't rage quit the ropes and in the end it has been a positive experience overall. I am seeing more repeat visitors and more consistent matches.

Originally Posted by Warprosper

I don't see a problem with losing your squad. I was fine with it in Bf2, and I'm fine with it now..

Totally different animal in BF4. In BF2... sure you lost your squad, but you had the same teammates every round. So you just re-formed your squad. In BF4, with the scramble plugin you not only get separated from your squad, but you also get thrown into a different pool of players. You don't have the luxury of re-forming the same squad (or close to it).

If everyone is really so concerned about balance on the servers, why not just turn on the full functionality of the MULTIbalance plugin. It moves people around during the round to keep the round scores close...

"Fair" and "team balance" have been a problem since dinosaurs walked the earth. The problem is some people say "if the rounds aren't close I will leave" others say "I don't care if the rounds are close if I can't stay in a squad with my friends then I will leave". If any of you have a plan on how we please both parties we are all ears.

Originally Posted by Phyrelight

funny part is some of the best games I have had since we implemented this in January is getting rolled one round then the server completely gets scrambled and everyone ends up in new squads. Some people move around but about 60 seconds in everyone is settled into the new sides. I typically stay where I get put and try to get to know the new players. Some are dead weight and I end up with a headache. Others however are actually on voip saying how they got rolled or did the rolling the previous round and they talk about strategies they used and they actually start communicating.....next thing you know I drop the "hey squad lead I think we got trounced last round due to lack of objective and direction, where do you want us to go?" That is normally followed by a silence until someone realizes they are the squad lead and they ask how to set an order. From there, its all gravy. We have gotten rolled 1 game, scrambled and had a following match within 50 tickets. One epic match came down to 3 ticket difference in the end. We all take the initiative to teach those that haven't rage quit the ropes and in the end it has been a positive experience overall. I am seeing more repeat visitors and more consistent matches.

My experience the other night was the complete opposite. I lost almost every round I participated in. I was in a squad with people on VOIP one round... got trounced by 300 tickets... next round I'm in with 3 people who have VOIP disabled and a squad leader who wasn't setting objectives, even when prompted on VOIP. With experiences like that... TPG is no different than any of the other faceless servers out there. I have as much of a chance enjoying playing on a random server as I do TPG... that's a problem.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

"Fair" and "team balance" have been a problem since dinosaurs walked the earth. The problem is some people say "if the rounds aren't close I will leave" others say "I don't care if the rounds are close if I can't stay in a squad with my friends then I will leave". If any of you have a plan on how we please both parties we are all ears.

Gamers today would rather play with their friends than anything else. If I'm with a squad of people working together... win or lose.. I typically have an enjoyable time. Blowouts can get old, yes, but if every round I'm getting shoved in with a bunch of people who don't use VOIP, who don't set objectives, who don't work together as a team is worse in my opinion.