Thread: Classic mode now official

I would play classic occasionally but I think I prefer vanilla.

Originally Posted by grayman

Poor little noob. Need your mommy to put a bandaid on boo boo too?

Cause that's less humiliating than the regenerative health/armor that's in Vanilla.

:P

HC eliminates all weapon balance. It's easy to be a rock star when every weapon is a one hit kill. Calling it Hard Core is a misnomer. It should be called Easy Mode.

And no, I don't need my Mommy to put a band-aid on my boo boo. I'll have your Mommy do it when she is done with my lawn.

I'd float where I'm needed. I love classic mode, not going to lie, but I am aware of the issues 2 servers pose. I'd also like to point out that if you are a reg here and want to help out, offer your soul to the admins and help us run the best server out there. If we have 2 servers we will need more primers (someone who's willing to play earlier to start the rounds - these guys are unsung hero's) too.

Side note: I play HC mode to unlock all the shit for weapons because it's easier than vanilla. Most weapons kill with 2 shots lol, and I've had ridiculous kill streaks with silenced kobra sighted snipers...

Originally Posted by dex71

HC eliminates all weapon balance. It's easy to be a rock star when every weapon is a one hit kill. Calling it Hard Core is a misnomer. It should be called Easy Mode.

And no, I don't need my Mommy to put a band-aid on my boo boo. I'll have your Mommy do it when she is done with my lawn.

Not really sure what that has to do with regen health/armor. Because we all know free HP makes for a very balanced game.... Oh wait no it doesn't.

Why don't we add unlimited ammo too? And what about a free tank for everyone?

Oh oh oh I know! How about invisibility cloaking devices? That way you don't have to cower in a corner while you wait for you HP to regenerate! I know you'd use that.

Originally Posted by grayman

Not really sure what that has to do with regen health/armor. Because we all know free HP makes for a very balanced game.... Oh wait no it doesn't.

Why don't we add unlimited ammo too? And what about a free tank for everyone?

Oh oh oh I know! How about invisibility cloaking devices? That way you don't have to cower in a corner while you wait for you HP to regenerate! I know you'd use that.

Health Regen happens way to slow to matter significantly in this fast paced environment. I usually never benefit from it being there and I would sooner rather call for a medic or drop a med bag myself then rely on health regen. It is one of the more well balanced aspects of the game imho.

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I've always preferred HC in battlefield. I actually think it's more balanced because weapons do so much damage. It eliminates certain weapons from being too OP because everything does realistic damage. Then it becomes more about tactics and the skill of the player...But I digress. Regardless of mode, classic settings, or whatever, the needs of TPG are my first concern.

If there was a second server I would play on it...But given our past attempts at 2 servers it's unclear if it will be as successful but I have noticed in the later hours of the night lately during the week, there are VERY few regs on our server. While I'm loading in I'll look at the player list and see maybe 3-4 names I recognize. This is a good thing meaning we are getting lots of new traffic. If that's the case maybe we could support a second server? It's just too early to tell. Regs like to play with regs more than they care about what mode the server is.

It depends on the number of random users end up looking for full classic mode servers.

Originally Posted by SourceSkills

Health Regen happens way to slow to matter significantly in this fast paced environment. I usually never benefit from it being there and I would sooner rather call for a medic or drop a med bag myself then rely on health regen. It is one of the more well balanced aspects of the game imho.

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On the contrary. When you get into a fire fight and win and then move to another position your health is higher than it was by the time you engage another enemy. In Classic and HC you're still down health putting you at a disadvantage.

I also find people drop less med kits in Vanilla and are less likely to help their teammates out by repairing vehicles because it's essentially a waste of time.

I think regen health discourages teamwork in terms of repairing and med packs.

Originally Posted by grayman

On the contrary. When you get into a fire fight and win and then move to another position your health is higher than it was by the time you engage another enemy. In Classic and HC you're still down health putting you at a disadvantage.

I also find people drop less med kits in Vanilla and are less likely to help their teammates out by repairing vehicles because it's essentially a waste of time.

I think regen health discourages teamwork in terms of repairing and med packs.

Your assumption on it affecting team play to me cant be argued with to much there. However that doesn't stop you from yelling at the guy in voip until he does give the stuff you need lol. If it is your intention to hold back to wait for your health to regen without the aid of a med bag you are really leaving your team out in the cold because you are depending on how badly you are hurt literally putting yourself out of the fight by hiding and waiting for 20 to 30 seconds for your health to get back to 100. That's counter productive for your team and for you and not to mention there are very few circumstances in which you are able to do this. The only time I have relied on health regen is if I have no other choice and even then I usually die to the next guy to come around the corner. Any situation in which you might have died to someone who had regened their health 9 times out of 10 it is probably because they used a med bag. Now this is all based on my experience with the game and of course that may vary but I am pretty confident when I say health regen in terms of an infantry fight is pretty balanced. Jets however need a nerf.

Originally Posted by SourceSkills

Your assumption on it affecting team play to me cant be argued with to much there. However that doesn't stop you from yelling at the guy in voip until he does give the stuff you need lol. If it is your intention to hold back to wait for your health to regen without the aid of a med bag you are really leaving your team out in the cold because you are depending on how badly you are hurt literally putting yourself out of the fight by hiding and waiting for 20 to 30 seconds for your health to get back to 100. That's counter productive for your team and for you and not to mention there are very few circumstances in which you are able to do this. The only time I have relied on health regen is if I have no other choice and even then I usually die to the next guy to come around the corner. Any situation in which you might have died to someone who had regened their health 9 times out of 10 it is probably because they used a med bag. Now this is all based on my experience with the game and of course that may vary but I am pretty confident when I say health regen in terms of an infantry fight is pretty balanced. Jets however need a nerf.

This isn't my strategy it's just an observation. I didn't get to division 1 in repair tools by holding back and not helping my team out

I've just noticed that in HC and Classic people are dropping more med kits and I consistently get repaired more so than in any Vanilla server I've played on. And I think the regen game mechanic is the culprit.