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**deathgodusmc** · 11-15-07, 11:37 PM

i am so sick of being shot by people not even facing me are they legal for use or not if no then what can be done if anything the minute you say anything you have people getting defensive which is the first clue they're using them

**Fajita!** · 11-15-07, 11:38 PM

Get thier names and a SS, and the admins will look out for them on the server

**w4jchosen** · 11-16-07, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

i am so sick of being shot by people not even facing me are they legal for use or not if no then what can be done if anything the minute you say anything you have people getting defensive which is the first clue they're using them

Either that or people are just tired of hearing people complain about it. Get you screen shots and post them up. The admins will take it from there.

**Rooster050** · 11-16-07, 12:47 AM

I'm sick of hackers/bugs/problems period. But what can you do? It has become a part of the game for some people. I think it's almost come to the point that it would be abnormal if someone wasn't cheating or hacking on a daily basis. This is EA's unwillingness to provide good gaming support and fix tech issues. They make good games, just suck at maintaining them.... :5

**Ranger10** · 11-16-07, 01:24 AM

Hacking never goes unchallenged here. We don't permit, condone or overlook it. Any player that is suspected of hacking will literally have a platoon of admins looking into the situation.

With that being said, more often than not, the player is not a hacker, but simply someone that knows how to play the game. Hacking accusations are quite honestly a dime a dozen. When we ban someone for hacking, it is because of weeks, sometimes months of data accumulation in which we make the call before be ban the individual.

Don't think that TTP allows hackers to stay here. In fact, this is likely one of the most aggressive servers around when it comes to persecuting hackers.

As far as bugs go, that a combination of EA and our host; neither of which we can do anything about. Just enjoy the game. If you find that you cannot, then I suggest PR since it seems to have fewer issues, yet is an oustanding game.

**MacDre707** · 11-16-07, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

the minute you say anything you have people getting defensive which is the first clue they're using them

So if you accuse someone of hacking and they defend their reputation by getting defensive, they're hacking?

Don't think thats clue, because I will defend myself against that accusation as well (and I don't hack, and I have never been accused of doing so because I suckmore than a Hoover).

However, lately I've been getting that feeling like hacking has increased in the past month. I mean, people absorbing full clips of shotguns and/or heavy fireamrs just to turn around and one shot kill me seems to be atleast a daily thing. But if you think its bad, try some other servers other than TTP, I did and I cried myself to sleep that night. :'(

I wish more could be done about it.

**(4)manno** · 11-16-07, 10:17 AM

I have been accused a few times for hacking. The funny thing is I look at my score and I am sucking azz. I could have 5 kills and 10 deaths but at the same time, being accused of hacking. TAKE SCREENIES OF THEIR SCORE AT THE END OF THE MAP ALSO! That may make you think twice about accusing someone. I don't know how they work but doubt it is something they turn on and off!

**WolverineBrother** · 11-16-07, 10:38 AM

I am sometimes the victim of insane one shot kills to the head. It is tempting to cry wolf in frustration. But I have also dished out a few of those. Without hacking.

Sometimes people just get lucky. It happens.

And the better the player, the less luck he or she needs to make those shots. Personally, when I make a shot like that, I know that I will be hitting every claymore, knife, bullet, nade and rocket in existence and you bet my chute wont open for a week.

As for taking damage, don't get us started on hit detection. I have emptied a jackhammer point blank range at guys who are allready eligible for a Purple Heart and they didn't go down. I doubt they hack...

But the times when your whole squad gets wiped out by mysterious g36 bullets to the head from across the map. Yeah, that's not luck...

My 2 cents

*edited for spelling and such...

**WolverineBrother** · 11-16-07, 10:49 AM

And another thing. As I improve my skills I feel less and less inclined to accuse people of hacking.

Maybe it is because I learn more about what is possible and what is not, as well as seeing more and more strange shit that has nothing to do with hacking.

Or maybe it is just because I don't want everybody to know I just got pwnd... :2

*edited... Yeah I can't spell... :5

**CivilWars** · 11-16-07, 11:19 AM

A few things to remember before crying hacker.

1. Do you do things in game now that you couldn't do 3, 6, or 12 months ago? Will you be able to do things 3, 6, 12 months from now that you can't currently? Is it possible that the player is more experienced than you, and has already learned the things you hope to?

2. EA sucks. When you kill someone, or someone kills you, your computer talks to the server, who talks to their computer, and they all have to keep talking. If you, or they, have better or worse lag, or if the server is in a pissy mood, what you see graphically is not what happened in the 1s and 0s. That is why so many flyboys and helo hogs will complain that missles went through the target. Where their computer told them to fire was where the enemy was a second or 2 ago, their computer just hasn't caught up.

I have talked with players when it appeared to me they one shot killed me, and they said they fired several rounds. My computer, because it sucks, only registered the kill shot. Many "hackers" are sometimes just blessed or cursed with glitches and lag.