BF2142 worth getting into this late in the game?

**iSLAYER** · 01-05-10, 07:34 PM

The Charger is incredibly buggy. I don't know if I'd say he's broken.

In a lag free environment he works great, I wouldn't mind a little lateral control but it isn't necessary. Of course how many people play lag free.

I've run people over, heard the hit, and magically not grabbed them. And I can't count how many times I've gotten snagged on stairs. Frustrating as HELL!

**Vooodu** · 01-05-10, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by NisseP

Okay, maybe no one else has noticed, but the Charger definately needs some tweaking. First off, his charge is stopped by a bin or some stupid shit like that. Unless the path is absoloutely clear, you can't charge properly.

Second, I think you should have some control of his charge. I mean, if you can't steer it, you fail if you are 1mm of targer. VERY annoying.

Thirdly, why does the charge take so long to reload when he MISSED? That is just taking the piss. Instead of helping the player for failing with a clearly broken SI, they just piss the player off more.

Please Valve, fix this sh*t!

The Charger is not broken. It does suck that he stops a charge on something small, and being able to steer the charge a bit would be cool..

But hey, if you screw up the charge you pay for it. Seems fair. Can't blame valve for that. I luv the charger as he is.

**NisseP** · 01-06-10, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Vooodu

The Charger is not broken. It does suck that he stops a charge on something small, and being able to steer the charge a bit would be cool..

But hey, if you screw up the charge you pay for it. Seems fair. Can't blame valve for that. I luv the charger as he is.

Yes, I agree, it does seem fair that you have to pay for missing, but you think RQ's and people like that are going to like that? There are more d*cks than nice people playing L4D2, so I have to say Valve should fix him up a bit.

**Vooodu** · 01-06-10, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by NisseP

Yes, I agree, it does seem fair that you have to pay for missing, but you think RQ's and people like that are going to like that? There are more d*cks than nice people playing L4D2, so I have to say Valve should fix him up a bit.

RQ's will always quit everytime things don't go their way. And a dick can be muted, booted or even team killed.

I think there are other things in this game that really need fixing. Like witches, tanks and melee weapons.

I hated how in L4D1 they made melee harder to hit a pouncing hunter because people complained it was to hard. Its not the survivors fault the hunter pounced right into a melee and didn't arc his pounce or come from behind.

Same goes with the chargers, line up the charge, relax, throw a few punches, wait for the right moment and don't charge unless you know where you'll end up. I know if I fail as a charger its usually because i didn't do any of those things not because hes broken.

**NisseP** · 01-06-10, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Vooodu

RQ's will always quit everytime things don't go their way. And a dick can be muted, booted or even team killed.

I think there are other things in this game that really need fixing. Like witches, tanks and melee weapons.

I hated how in L4D1 they made melee harder to hit a pouncing hunter because people complained it was to hard. Its not the survivors fault the hunter pounced right into a melee and didn't arc his pounce or come from behind.

Same goes with the chargers, line up the charge, relax, throw a few punches, wait for the right moment and don't charge unless you know where you'll end up. I know if I fail as a charger its usually because i didn't do any of those things not because hes broken.

I totally agree with the hunter melee

And all though the Charger is very skill based, it still need tweaking. And yes, Witches needs to be fixed. HATE their new damage >

**Baron_BJ** · 01-06-10, 08:36 AM

The issue is that there are many items ingame, most are there for decoration, however the problem is that there is no real way to actually define whether or not they can be interacted with on any level AT ALL as anything AT ALL can only be checked by fucking with it, and doing that can often mean death.

**NisseP** · 01-06-10, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Baron_BJ

The issue is that there are many items ingame, most are there for decoration, however the problem is that there is no real way to actually define whether or not they can be interacted with on any level AT ALL as anything AT ALL can only be checked by fucking with it, and doing that can often mean death.

Yeah, but without these decorative items, the world would seem slightly emtier, so Valve can't really remove them :P

**Benlisted** · 01-06-10, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by NisseP

Yes, I agree, it does seem fair that you have to pay for missing, but you think RQ's and people like that are going to like that? There are more d*cks than nice people playing L4D2, so I have to say Valve should fix him up a bit.

Then surely it'd be better to think up an idea to solve ragequitters and idiots rather than give them something they want, at which point they will complain about something else, and others will complain its too hard to avoid the charger?

An altered MM system would help this, not changing the charger.

**Abyss Crown** · 01-06-10, 01:51 PM

Stairs + Charger = No.

**chuckg0928** · 01-06-10, 02:00 PM

^ the truth has been spoken

The charger is perfectly fine. The real culprit here is lag. lag is the charger's worst nightmare. get a lag-free (or a lower-lag server) server and the charger works fine. Its usually due to user error (not charging in a straight line down an alley and epic failing by hitting the wall, assuming that you will bowl through obstacles, charging from long distances with the idiotic notion that the survivors are going to stand absolutely still so your charge will hit)