Thread: Team switchers

If people switch teams just to win, or for a vehicle, they are not true teamplayers. This will probably not be their only non-teamplaying issue. Give them time and they will TK someone for screwing up their plans, or stealing their prized jet. They will refuse to follow orders from their commander or squadleader. They will do something that is against the established rules, someone will see it, and they will be no more.

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Forgot to mention the good in this post...

The good would be I think it would discourage TTP members to switch teams...however after writing that I am thinking any true TTP'er who would be seeing the stickies wouldn't be switching to win...
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I have no good answer for you Civilwars, but JBMCW2010 stole the thoughts right out of my brain.


And the reason I wrote this post was from the team only losing marginally 50 tickets or less when you get a jet whore player Hutch1ns switching and the team losing by more than 150 tickets.

Thank you Ranger10.... Eloquently said.

Next post I'll post about Commanders who don't use/have mics or they want to kill and command.

Rant off

Thank you for your time.

Originally Posted by GrandMasterGuess

Next post I'll post about Commanders who don't use/have mics or they want to kill and command.

I think everyone here will agree with you.

However I sometimes command with very little verbal because everyone complains I am too quite all the time and after hearing that for a few hours I give up for the night. Though I don't often command....

As teamswitching is in essence impossible to police, since there are legitimate reasons for switching, I have stopped caring about that. I notice people I have been killing the round before suddenly have their name in blue and vice versa, but I don't know why it has happened and I no longer judge em for it. Unless of course we are winning big and certain fellows switch. But I keep it in-squad...

I had a period where I would crash to desktop virtually every time there was a map change. Usually i would end up on the losing side, but there were times when I was switched to the winning side upon reconnecting as well. I guess others might have similar problems from time to time. With all the talk of teamswitchers, I was reluctant to switch to the winning team even when my friends asked me to, because I didn't want to get a rep as a "teamswitcher". I would readily join them if they were losing. Now I just don't care about that anymore. If I want to play with a friend on the other team, I'll switch, wether he is winning or losing. And I will bring my adherence to the rules and hardcore teamplay with me.

So let 'em switch. We will find a way to overcome the enemy and win. No matter who's in that J-10. J-10's will get you the points (if you know how to use them) but they wont win the game. The guys on the ground win the game. That's where you'll find me. And Jeep. And GMG. And a host of other groundpounders with a burning desire to win.

Hell I play around with the helo and the jet before the round starts. But once it is on, I'm capping those flags. Because that is the way to win. I'll take 20 points and the win over 98 and the loss any day (Examples are both from yesterday)...

And like Ranger says, non-teamplayers will stumble over one of our rules and that will be that.

In my opinion, switching to merely be on the winning side is ... well ... cowardice. I am in agreement with some that have posted, but I am not sure that there is a clear or meaningful path for resolving this. If the person wants to switch to the other side... well there are going to be 29 (most of the time) other people on my team that will be working to make sure my team prevails. Let the baby have his ball I guess. Honestly, I am usually to busy trying to cap/defend/kill/survive/accomplish goals to notice a single or a couple of people switching sides.

If you call someone on it for switching sides and they become abusive ... I would suppose there is enough grounds to kick them for the latter ... although you certainly should not abuse them either.

However, the kind of "switching" that irks me is when I hop on a server and it is 10-6 (which means it was 10-5 before I arrived!) :5 ... "lack of switching" is nothing less than lame ... granted a mass exodus may have happened before I joined the server. Simply put, I think the true absence of team play is found in stacking one side on purpose ... and by stacking I mean by numbers of people. At the very least, we should be "team switching" to keep the game playable (I know, it isn't often that we don't have 30 vs 30 games). As for switching to gain a "talent" advantage ... cheap as well, but then I like challenges (others may not enjoy getting ripped apart though). :10

Bottom line, most of the best matches I have played were hard fought and 4-0 or even 1-0 wins/losses (memories of our recent Dalian victories in the Turkey Shoot monthly match are still fresh in my mind LINK )! I look forward to this sort of team play and to this end, I would hope we all join teams such that we can see more of these kinds of battles.
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GMG,

I wanted to clarify my stance. I agree that switching to win, or get a J10, is a crappy thing to do. I just don't see an easy way to fight it. People that do it probably won't be by here to see it's a problem, and I would rather have guys like you fighting the battle than watching for switchers.

If you see it happen try to encourage teamplay from the individual. Remember though what you think is the reason may not be. The other night I was on the team that lost a few rounds in a row. We are loading the second round of Tampa, and while trying to click squad or kit I hit the team button. I immediately switched, and because the server was full could not switch back. I am sure some players questioned my motive, but in this instance it was a complete accident.

Let's keep an eye out for people that don't follow orders, don't squad up, and TK, and i bet many of these cowardly team switchers will fall in one of those categories. Then the admins are justified in executing, I mean removing, them.

Civil