Seriously... Bridge at Rem.

**WileECyte** · 07-08-08, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by laggyNgroovy

On the flip side, it is almost like penalizing the people who did spend the $10 for the upgrade by getting rid of the benefits of upgrading.

Just devil's advocate moment

People still have the unlocks (without field upgrades) for their $10. I couldn't live without several of the NS unlocks at this point.

Why isn't NS any different than the Euro Forces and Armored Fury battle packs for BF2? Does TTP play them in regular rotation? Nope.Where's my $20 investment there? NS has gone the way of EF and AF. Lots of people playing initially, and then interest slacked off...

**Redeye7** · 07-08-08, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by laggyNgroovy

On the flip side, it is almost like penalizing the people who did spend the $10 for the upgrade by getting rid of the benefits of upgrading.

Just devil's advocate moment

I love NS. Leipzig and Bavaria have always been favorites of mine.

If overall server health is the main picture, its just something that might be considered. I'd hate to see them go but I would hate that less than seeing the server die off to nearly nothing when it had formerly been rocking right along.

**Angellmajick** · 07-08-08, 01:41 PM

I spent my money and I want to play those maps. I don't want them pushed to the back or you end up playing them really late at night when no one is on anyway.

I do find it interesting that in the past year that I have been part of TTP I have seen this exact conversation take place about 5-6 times...that I can remember.

I have voted to keep it everytime, and I will continue to do so...

Originally Posted by Phaedro

If so, you are contributing to the problem that makes people dislike the map.

i have said this everytime this discuassion has come up...

**nikolai0505** · 07-08-08, 01:43 PM

true they do get the extra upgrades like the infantry sonar extra smg clips etc. those are really good it gives them an advantage to those who didn't buy it

**WileECyte** · 07-08-08, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Allane

This is something probably better left to an admin discussion, but hey, the people can speak too.

I voted to keep it, keep it all. That map is FUN as heck. If the population drops, xfire some friends, tell them to get off their arses and help the server up. As long as the game hasn't officially started, you can mess around.

Believe me, I've spent more time priming on NS maps here in the last couple weeks than I care to count. I normally hit anyone up I know plays 2142 when we need help. A lot of times I get help... but I also get a lot of "Busy on other server" or whatever. Love the maps. hate when 90 minutes of my life is spent playing 2 rounds on a NS map with a server less than half full (If you're lucky enough to have 8 players left.)

**Glitch** · 07-08-08, 01:50 PM

I love the NS maps on a full server.

Unforuntaly they are currently a circle jerk of chain flag caps due to having huge maps with less than 12 people per team.

At this point I would almost like to see 2 of the 3 NS maps removed from the rotation. Swap in a different one each time the rotation is changed for what ever reason.

**Redeye7** · 07-08-08, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Angellmajick

Originally Posted by Phaedro

If so, you are contributing to the problem that makes people dislike the map.

i have said this everytime this discuassion has come up...

I guess i'm part of that problem.

I spend tons of time priming servers, getting things going. Then remagen comes up and it can all be undone just like that. Oh, you know for sure that in 1.5 to 2 hours on a bad day, when it finally grinds through, that people will be back....

It's all just personal preference in the end.

**FragRaptor** · 07-08-08, 02:44 PM

Dont you be touchin my speeder OR my speeder map

On a more serious note, something we could all do is not bring up 2 different threads on the same page of the forums talking about the same map/NS.

**PASHA** · 07-08-08, 02:48 PM

I like NS, I also do realize how it kills the server every time it is loaded. Maybe we should only load the smaller NS maps that are not a pain in the ass to play with less players.