Thread: Constructive criticism

Originally Posted by GrandMasterGuess

A video I watched on youtube showing alot of mistakes a player does to help his squad.

Point out the mistakes by this player.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN3o7CAMBxg


The only correct team play move this player made was to spawn on his SL.

I don't play BF2, I'm considering buying it, but this dude looks like a total dumbass.

-Got in a C4 car.
-Walked up to a C4 APC.
-Shot a plane in single fire.
-Shot at a transport helo single fire.
-Threw a Grenade at a chopper at 50ft.
-He spawns green like once or twice
-Fires more at choppers he can't kill
-Never actually gets on the flags
-Picks what kit he wants and never whats requested.
-Overall obsession with bad shooting and/or shooting vehicles he can't kill.
-Runs over Teammates when its obvious he is going to hit them.
-He can't shoot....at all.

Originally Posted by Kelderos

-Shot a plane in single fire.
-Shot at a transport helo single fire.
-Fires more at choppers he can't kill
-Overall obsession with bad shooting and/or shooting vehicles he can't kill.

Im curious as to how, in the situations i saw in the beginning, it really matters that he shot at the heli?

Was he going to shoot it down? nah.
Was it really going to make a difference? nah

All he did was piss off a heli that was in the middle of a firefight. He didnt give them away their position, the pilot should already have known they were there.

Originally Posted by Burninator_PBN

Originally Posted by Kelderos

-Shot a plane in single fire.
-Shot at a transport helo single fire.
-Fires more at choppers he can't kill
-Overall obsession with bad shooting and/or shooting vehicles he can't kill.

Im curious as to how, in the situations i saw in the beginning, it really matters that he shot at the heli?

Was he going to shoot it down? nah.
Was it really going to make a difference? nah

All he did was piss off a heli that was in the middle of a firefight. He didnt give them away their position, the pilot should already have known they were there.

Firing makes noise. Firing at an attack Helo Brings Death to your entire squad. He didn't fire at an attack helo but if he is firing at transport helos I'm assuming he is dumb enough to shoot a Z10. Anyways it affects your accuracy, it can give away your position, and if your firing at some object in the sky your not paying attention to whats around you on the ground.

Originally Posted by Kelderos

Originally Posted by Burninator_PBN

Originally Posted by Kelderos

-Shot a plane in single fire.
-Shot at a transport helo single fire.
-Fires more at choppers he can't kill
-Overall obsession with bad shooting and/or shooting vehicles he can't kill.

Im curious as to how, in the situations i saw in the beginning, it really matters that he shot at the heli?

Was he going to shoot it down? nah.
Was it really going to make a difference? nah

All he did was piss off a heli that was in the middle of a firefight. He didnt give them away their position, the pilot should already have known they were there.

Firing makes noise. Firing at an attack Helo Brings Death to your entire squad. He didn't fire at an attack helo but if he is firing at transport helos I'm assuming he is dumb enough to shoot a Z10. Anyways it affects your accuracy, it can give away your position, and if your firing at some object in the sky your not paying attention to whats around you on the ground.

I understand that, im not saying as a whole. And assuming is the fastest way to be wrong about something.

In the start he was shooting at a helicopter taking off the pad at MEC airbase. They saw him and tried to kill him. Looks like they were just trying to get away from the fight.

Im not talking about in general. Im talking about a specific situation.

Just to piss everyone off... His mistake was playing this game.

SL: Ineffective instructions
- Got in a car without instructions to do so
- Didn't get out when it was obvious the car was going in the wrong direction
- Gave away the position of the car/Spec Ops (although the Spec Ops really did this)
- Threw a grenade that would never connect.
- Firing single shot at a transport
- Didn't pick up the enemy attack helo when it spawned (hell, least he could do standing around there, eh?)
- Got in C4 car (again, just stupidity on the part of the Spec Ops, but he should realize car + attack helo = not the best place to be)
- Running ahead of the SL
- Stopped moving when hit by sniper (always keep moving, serpentine!)
- Spawned as useless kit (between Construction and Intake; it's a good spot for a sniper perhaps, but the squad already has a Support gunner)
SL: Has no idea where to go, doesn't ask for AT kits, even when close-in to Intake (and facing armor).
SL: More concerned with destroying the assets than taking care of the hostile armor (calls for Spec Ops only).
- Extraordinarily bad luck in hiding under a C4'd APC.
SL: Camping the mid-runway? Again, going after assets instead of being an effective leader.
- Has mic set way too low (and has threshold too low, too, which is why he is shown distorting constantly).
SL:Completely oblivious to his current situation.
- Takes another sniper round.
- Gives up and turns his mike up to 'death-metal concert' level. Surely someone will hear... something from him now. :P
- Focuses on trying to uselessly plink at transport instead of regroup with SL (he was already far behind before he started to mess with his settings).
- Jumps off cliff (I mean, duh. He didn't even slip, he willfully walked off a ~100ft. drop).
- Still not spawning correct kit (he knows SL is inside Intake complex, and yet he picks.. Sniper?)
- Tries to assault flag as a... Sniper.
-Runs away from SL instead of supporting him.
- Has the shooting reaction times of a wet sloth. Seriously, I could snipe better than this. Needs a remedial course in leading the target.
- Runs after a useless kill instead of supporting the SL or following orders.

+ Well, knife in the face. At least he did that right.

- Still spawns Sniper even after hearing "Shit, tank's hostile". That might be a subtle clue that AT kits are warranted.
- More astoundingly bad sniping.
- Again, runs after a kill instead of sticking with the squad (apparently, he's going to kill an engineer AND a sniper with just a bolt-action rifle ).
- Gives up and tries to go for the gaymore kill. Still fails spectacularly at it (millwalljames should give him some instruction ).
- Hears "I need ammo". Spawns in as... Assault. Still knows there are multiple armor targets and most of the fighting is coming in at sub-30m (perfect range for the AT and his DAO). Doesn't spawn AT.
- Stands and tries to kill a car with an F2000, instead of using the grenade launcher like a sane human being.
- Again, spawns Assault (this time with G3 in tow). Not helpful to squad.
- Runs after car drop instead of following SL (not even his car drop, was req'd by someone else).
- Steals car.
- Drives car over cliffs instead of down the bloody road.
- TK's a squadmate with his ineptitude ("No problem" he says. No problem? I'd have punished him for that, and I hardly ever punish).
- Has no idea how to drive. Puts the car in the worst possible position, gets out instead of changing the camera, eats an AT round for it.
SL: Still useless, has no idea any of this is going on. Some tepid words of encouragement.
- Gets his third kill! Woo! (Second 'semi-legitimate' kill, as I don't count spamming gaymores a real kill).
- Stands around like a useless tit on the last 13 tickets. Not pushing the objective. Could have spawned in AT and taken shots at the incoming APCs or tanks at least.

Some other interesting notes:

The SL is useless. He can't give orders, he isn't placing map markers, he's not leading his squad, he's just filling the first slot up. He cannot assess the situation properly and issue commands accordingly, he rarely talks, and he focuses more on wide-eyed objectives that his squad is not equipped to accomplish, either mentally or mechanically.

The server is set never to punish for TK's. Yea, I'm sure that works out great when the jets and choppers respawn. Because of this, it looks like TK's are rampant, especially from the aircraft.

Our wayward anti-hero can't fight, period, and all he seems to use are SF weapons. Poor form, as the US stock weapons are ridiculously good.

He needs to get his ass stuck on TTP, post-haste. Either we'll learn him to be a real teamplayer, or we'll send him home crying.

Draco