Commander

**Darkenone86** · 01-04-09, 01:58 AM

Alright, I have been holding this back incase it was a one time thing, but I can not anymore.

For the past couple of times I have been playing. I have been souly playing as commander. I usually play a good 6-7 straight rounds of commanding. The past 2 times re-occuring, I have had SL's not following big orders that cost us the game. For example, we were playing stalemate, had the enemy capped down to one flag. I kept scanning and watching their movements. I gave each squad a damn order to move, attack or defend a location. Only 3 out of 7 squads accepted, and only 2 out of the 3 did what I said. 1 of those squads only had 2 people in it. What pisses me off the most about this situation is that the order I gave to move would have intercepted the forces moving to other flags. The defend order backed them up, and the attack orders would have took the flag from behind. But because no one listened, WE LOST EVERY FLAG!!!!

Second- We were playing Peninsala (sp). We were the arabs attacking. We had every flag but TV. I gave order again, over the radio, typed it, and commander ordered it. I had a squad of armor sitting outside TV station no moving in. Constantly yelling and yelling and still they sat. Our men could not go in the damn gate because of the other teams 1 tank. Our APC and Tank could have smashed it, but instead they were blasted by a squad of AT heading to hotel. We lost our armor, we lost EVERY FLAG and lost the round. I was pissed. The whole time when they were disobeying I was typing that shit up for all to see. Not a single admin kicked. Hey, its cool i understand admins miss stuff. But yet I see someone else getting kicked onthe other side for non teamplay.

Third- Tonight. Clean Sweep. I give a direct order, DO NOT ATTACK AIRFIELD, ALL THEIR PEOPLE ARE THERE. So what do 2 of my full squads do as soon as round starts? 1 jets and bails, another takes a chopper. The whole time I was telling them what all flags were available to bail and take. The whole time I had one squad pinned down and finally took control. Finally Elk stepped up and listened and took the flags i had said from the beginning. We lost by i think 100 tickets because of the first 2 squads at the very beginning.

I am not going to say names, but alot of these people are our regulars. It pisses me off to see people think they can do something, when the commander says "HEY JACK ASS, THEIR WHOLE FACKING TEAM IT THERE, ATTACK COMMUNICATION WHERE NO ONE IS!!!!" But yet repeatedly they still try to attack it. Its annoying to think some of these sl's know what the battlefield looks like so they just attack a flag. The whole point of a commander is get the team to win, not one squad to be good. On a map like clean sweep. The first objective is to get a flag on the island so your team can spawn on land. Ther first objective should never be run naked into a fire saying help help I need arti and a twinky. Like on any map where you had water seperating spawns, you should always try to take a flag that is relatively safe, so your entire team can spawn to fight.

I know admins can't be everyone at once, but shit isn't team playing why we are here? If the commanders orders are wack, ask him why he's sending you a move order to the tree line. O'snap theres 2 squads there.

I have one simple request when I am a commander. Follow my orders or don't be a Squad Leader.
If this affends you, then you be commander and give the order.

Thanks and have a great day.!.

Dark

**Kanati** · 01-04-09, 02:06 AM

To hell with being nice. Regulars shouldn't be safe from ridicule. They should be MORE accountable for their actions. Drop names. It's the only way things will change.

**JBMCW2010** · 01-04-09, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Kanati8869

To hell with being nice. Regulars shouldn't be safe from ridicule. They should be MORE accountable for their actions. Drop names. It's the only way things will change.

if the admins are not around call SLs out in game chat then report them here. Admins can then verify your complaints checking the logs, they then can watch players more closely.

**WolverineBrother** · 01-04-09, 02:34 AM

It wasn't me!

Seriously though, orders are there to be followed. If you don't follow the orders (you can try to talk to the commander about things if you disagree) you have no business playing here. It has been determined several times, so call the unruly bastards out in the problem player sticky.

Now, I was minding my own business, defending the Airfield on Wake (FTW!), when I get a commander order to move out and defend/attack one of the north bases. I tried talking to him, I even told him straight up, that if he sent my squad up north, we would lose the game in a few seconds. No reply, and the order stood. So I got my guys in a car, drove up north while initiating a mutiny vote (wich failed), and Airfield flag was neutral before we got to the north side flag.

The punk resigned shortly after losing the airfield flag. Needless to say, we lost the round big.

Moral of the story, follow the order and bitch about it later.

**triggerhappy2005** · 01-04-09, 05:07 AM

I hate when armor camps. It should be a kickable offense.

**ems_goof** · 01-04-09, 09:52 AM

This type of thing is why I now refuse to command. A bunch of "big names" who think their crap doesn't stink not following orders, loosing us a game. I repeatedly call them out in game and ask for admins (who I know were on), and nothing happens.

**BruceBloodMaster** · 01-04-09, 10:12 AM

LOL I think I was one of the two man squads.........I always seems to get orders to take a position with me and another guy. I Try to comply most everytime whether its futile or not. But like you Dark I always seem to get orders to move to the opposite side of the map as where I am..........

**11Bravo** · 01-04-09, 10:34 AM

Been there, had to deal with it. I understand the frustration completely. What makes it worse is when you are the only one stepping up to command.

Good squad leaders who know, when, where, & how to attack are not as easily found in this game. It got so bad for me one night. I just spent one round telling them how bad we were going to lose since they didn't want to follow orders. I then told them that 'when you are tired of losing start following orders; if you want to win on this server then you need to listen and do what I ask; otherwise we wont win one game'. It took two rounds of ass beatings before guys actually started to get with the program. During the second half of the second round we actually made a come back and only lost by 40 or so points. Next round, everyone decided it was worth following orders. We actually started to lay the smack down. Lasted two rounds, next thing you know the make up of the team changed. We lost certain players and had to repeat the process. It was very frustrating. Just keep your head up {I know it's hard to do}. If you don't want to call them out in the forums, please feel free to PM them your thoughts as well as any moderator of this forum.

Sometimes players forget themselves and it's very disheartening. Don't let it get to you, just do the best you can no matter what.

**ninja|oaklandr** · 01-04-09, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Kanati8869

To hell with being nice. Regulars shouldn't be safe from ridicule. They should be MORE accountable for their actions. Drop names. It's the only way things will change.

I agree with this.

If the commander sends me to a flag on the other side of the map and I am defending say Kubra airfield I will ask him. Most of the time the commander let's me stay. If no reply then I pack up and leave. Bottom line is no matter who the commander is the orders should be followed. If they are ridiculous orders ask them and If no reply do them. Then you can SS them and bring it here.

**Walkerxes** · 01-04-09, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by ninja|oaklandr

Originally Posted by Kanati8869

To hell with being nice. Regulars shouldn't be safe from ridicule. They should be MORE accountable for their actions. Drop names. It's the only way things will change.

I agree with this.

If the commander sends me to a flag on the other side of the map and I am defending say Kubra airfield I will ask him. Most of the time the commander let's me stay. If no reply then I pack up and leave. Bottom line is no matter who the commander is the orders should be followed. If they are ridiculous orders ask them and If no reply do them. Then you can SS them and bring it here.

3rd.

Call em out, Dark. By playing here and being regulars, they've agreed to abide by the rules of TTP. By being reservists they agree (they MUST agree, as part of the reservist contract) to be held to an even higher standard of rule-following and teamplay than even non-reservist regulars.

As resident clan members, it's my feeling that the same elevated standard applies as for a reservist, whether the resident clan member is a reservist or not, and DOUBLY so if they ARE a reservist.

Call em out.